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Message ID: 9395
Date: 2013-03-04

Author:Virginio Oddone

Subject:Re: Poverty rates and race

I'm sorry, but since I'm working and working in Italy, I'm not fully familiar with US administrative terminology, so please: may you explain what "% within Demo 11 race" - in Prof. Chaffin table - means? I apologize in advance. The tables below are quite disturbing; however poverty has always been a cause of family and educational problems, of higher mortality and morbidity. French demographer coined, more than a half a century ago, the term of "inégalité devant la mort", inequality in front death, and also disease. They are still using it, and there has been in the last 10 - 15 years a spate of medical publications, event in BMJ or NEJM about health inequalities inside Western societies. I think that we should talk also of "inequality in parenting" or, better, "inégalité devant le droit d'etre parent", inequality in the right of being a parent owing to social conditions, don't you think so? There medical researches about health inequalities have brought some informations, for instance, about not just the mechanical relationships between poverty and some indicators (e.g., the poor children eat less, grow less & so on), but also about relationships between poverty and some biological and behavioral issues. Virginio ODDONE Dr. Virginio ODDONE, M.D. V. Avogadro 6 10121 - Torino (Italy) e-mail: oddovir@ipsnet.it ****************** J'ai enfin le droit de saluer des êtres que je ne connais pas Ils passent devant moi et s'accumulent au loin Tandis que tout ce que j'en vois m'est inconnu Et leur espoir n'est pas moins fort que le mien. (Apollinaire, Le musicien de Saint-Merry.) Per loro natura tutti gli uomini desiderano di sapere. All men by nature desire to know Tous les hommes désirent naturellement de savoir. (Aristoteles, Metaphysica, Liber I, I, 1; Book I, I, 1). On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Chaffin, Mark J. (HSC) > wrote: > This table is from our n=2175 study of families in home based services. So, its not the entire child welfare population. However, it does illustrate one interesting phenomenon. That is that income disparities in the general population are less evident in the child welfare population. A substantial majority of child welfare families are poor, across ethnic groups. MC Demo 11 race * Below 2009 U.S. federal poverty line based on income and number supported Crosstabulation Below 2009 U.S. federal poverty line based on income and number supported Total .00 1.00 Demo 11 race African American Count 25 156 181 % within Demo 11 race 13.8% 86.2% 100.0% American Indian, Native American Count 65 252 317 % within Demo 11 race 20.5% 79.5% 100.0% Asian American Count 4 4 8 % within Demo 11 race 50.0% 50.0% 100.0% Hispanic American Count 14 81 95 % within Demo 11 race 14.7% 85.3% 100.0% White, not Hispanic Count 238 1086 1324 % within Demo 11 race 18.0% 82.0% 100.0% Other Count 8 37 45 % within Demo 11 race 17.8% 82.2% 100.0% Total Count 354 1616 1970 % within Demo 11 race 18.0% 82.0% 100.0% Mark Chaffin, PhD Professor of Pediatrics University of Oklahoma Health Sciences Center P.O. Box 26901 Oklahoma City, OK (405) 271-8858 mark-chaffin@ouhsc.edu

I'm sorry, but since I'm working and working in Italy, I'm not fully familiar with US administrative terminology, so please: may you explain what "% within Demo 11 race" - in Prof. Chaffin table - means? I apologize in advance. The tables below are quite disturbing; however poverty has always been a cause of family and educational problems, of higher mortality and morbidity. French demographer coined, more than a half a century ago, the term of "inégalité devant la mort", inequality in front death, and also disease. They are still using it, and there has been in the last 10 - 15 years a spate of medical publications, event in BMJ or NEJM about health inequalities inside Western societies. I think that we should talk also of "inequality in parenting" or, better, "inégalité devant le droit d'etre parent", inequality in the right of being a parent owing to social conditions, don't you think so? There medical researches about health inequalities have brought some informations, for instance, about not just the mechanical relationships between poverty and some indicators (e.g., the poor children eat less, grow less & so on), but also about relationships between poverty and some biological and behavioral issues. Virginio ODDONE Dr. Virginio ODDONE, M.D. V. Avogadro 6 10121 - Torino (Italy) e-mail: oddoviripsnet.it ****************** J'ai enfin le droit de saluer des êtres que je ne connais pas Ils passent devant moi et s'accumulent au loin Tandis que tout ce que j'en vois m'est inconnu Et leur espoir n'est pas moins fort que le mien. (Apollinaire, Le musicien de Saint-Merry.) Per loro natura tutti gli uomini desiderano di sapere. All men by nature desire to know Tous les hommes désirent naturellement de savoir. (Aristoteles, Metaphysica, Liber I, I, 1; Book I, I, 1). On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Chaffin, Mark J. (HSC) > wrote: > This table is from our n=2175 study of families in home based services. So, its not the entire child welfare population. However, it does illustrate one interesting phenomenon. That is that income disparities in the general population are less evident in the child welfare population. A substantial majority of child welfare families are poor, across ethnic groups. MC Demo 11 race * Below 2009 U.S. federal poverty line based on income and number supported Crosstabulation Below 2009 U.S. federal poverty line based on income and number supported Total .00 1.00 Demo 11 race African American Count 25 156 181 % within Demo 11 race 13.8% 86.2% 100.0% American Indian, Native American Count 65 252 317 % within Demo 11 race 20.5% 79.5% 100.0% Asian American Count 4 4 8 % within Demo 11 race 50.0% 50.0% 100.0% Hispanic American Count 14 81 95 % within Demo 11 race 14.7% 85.3% 100.0% White, not Hispanic Count 238 1086 1324 % within Demo 11 race 18.0% 82.0% 100.0% Other Count 8 37 45 % within Demo 11 race 17.8% 82.2% 100.0% Total Count 354 1616 1970 % within Demo 11 race 18.0% 82.0% 100.0% Mark Chaffin, PhD Professor of Pediatrics University of Oklahoma Health Sciences Center P.O. Box 26901 Oklahoma City, OK (405) 271-8858 mark-chaffinouhsc.edu