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Message ID: 9394
Date: 2013-03-04
Author:Melanie Sage
Subject:Re: Poverty rates and race
I don't think we know whether private legal representation influences the likelihood of out-of-home placement. It is not my personal experience that private representation is more likely to lead to children remaining/returning home. Is there research that supports this? On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 9:40 PM, Peggy Taylor > wrote:
There is clearly a strong relationship between poverty and out of home placement. How much do we know about the extent to which a family's ability to pay for private legal representation influences the likelihood of an out of home placement following a child welfare referral?
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Chaffin, Mark J. (HSC) > wrote:
This table is from our n=2175 study of families in home based services. So, its not the entire child welfare population. However, it does illustrate one interesting phenomenon. That is that income disparities in the general population are less evident in the child welfare population. A substantial majority of child welfare families are poor, across ethnic groups.
MC
Demo 11 race * Below 2009 U.S. federal poverty line based on income and number supported Crosstabulation
Below 2009 U.S. federal poverty line based on income and number supported
Total
.00
1.00
Demo 11 race
African American
Count
25
156
181
% within Demo 11 race
13.8%
86.2%
100.0%
American Indian, Native American
Count
65
252
317
% within Demo 11 race
20.5%
79.5%
100.0%
Asian American
Count
4
4
8
% within Demo 11 race
50.0%
50.0%
100.0%
Hispanic American
Count
14
81
95
% within Demo 11 race
14.7%
85.3%
100.0%
White, not Hispanic
Count
238
1086
1324
% within Demo 11 race
18.0%
82.0%
100.0%
Other
Count
8
37
45
% within Demo 11 race
17.8%
82.2%
100.0%
Total
Count
354
1616
1970
% within Demo 11 race
18.0%
82.0%
100.0%
Mark Chaffin, PhD
Professor of Pediatrics
University of Oklahoma Health Sciences Center
P.O. Box 26901
Oklahoma City, OK
(405) 271-8858
mark-chaffin@ouhsc.edu
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From: Michael Durfee [mailto:michaeld55@aol.com ]
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 3:14 PM
Subject: RE: Poverty rates and race
This is from - http://www.childtrendsdatabank.org/?q=node/368 it deserves more response from us.
Important question that receives little attention. Blacks die twice as often as whites in the first year of life from many causes. Some years I found the black infant homicide rate higher than that. My career in public health included episodic training in “cultural sensitivity”. That was of some value but incredibly incomplete for addressing black infant homicide.
Do you have some references for the rest of us?
Michael
Michael Durfee MD
ICAN National Center for Child Fatality Review
Michaeld55@aol.com
From: bounce-75376014-27571402@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-75376014-27571402@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Jane Marshall
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 1:59 PM
To: Child Maltreatment Researchers
Subject: Poverty rates and race
Could anyone offer some information on the following:
Poverty rates of black child welfare youth? Poverty rates of white child welfare youth?
Poverty rates of black delinquent youth? Poverty rates of white delinquent youth?
While research shows that a high percentage of youth involved with the child welfare and juvenile justice system are extremely poor, I wonder whether black CW and black delinquent youth are any more poor than white CW and delinquent youth.
Thanks for your help,
Jane
--
Jane Marie Marshall, PhD
Post Doctoral Research Associate
University of Minnesota
School of Social Work
http://www.cehd.umn.edu/SSW/g-s/
I don't think we know whether private legal representation influences the likelihood of out-of-home placement. It is not my personal experience that private representation is more likely to lead to children remaining/returning home. Is there research that supports this? On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 9:40 PM, Peggy Taylor > wrote:
There is clearly a strong relationship between poverty and out of home placement. How much do we know about the extent to which a family's ability to pay for private legal representation influences the likelihood of an out of home placement following a child welfare referral?
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Chaffin, Mark J. (HSC) > wrote:
This table is from our n=2175 study of families in home based services. So, its not the entire child welfare population. However, it does illustrate one interesting phenomenon. That is that income disparities in the general population are less evident in the child welfare population. A substantial majority of child welfare families are poor, across ethnic groups.
MC
Demo 11 race * Below 2009 U.S. federal poverty line based on income and number supported Crosstabulation
Below 2009 U.S. federal poverty line based on income and number supported
Total
.00
1.00
Demo 11 race
African American
Count
25
156
181
% within Demo 11 race
13.8%
86.2%
100.0%
American Indian, Native American
Count
65
252
317
% within Demo 11 race
20.5%
79.5%
100.0%
Asian American
Count
4
4
8
% within Demo 11 race
50.0%
50.0%
100.0%
Hispanic American
Count
14
81
95
% within Demo 11 race
14.7%
85.3%
100.0%
White, not Hispanic
Count
238
1086
1324
% within Demo 11 race
18.0%
82.0%
100.0%
Other
Count
8
37
45
% within Demo 11 race
17.8%
82.2%
100.0%
Total
Count
354
1616
1970
% within Demo 11 race
18.0%
82.0%
100.0%
Mark Chaffin, PhD
Professor of Pediatrics
University of Oklahoma Health Sciences Center
P.O. Box 26901
Oklahoma City, OK
(405) 271-8858
mark-chaffinouhsc.edu
This message (including attachments) may contain information that is privileged, confidential or protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that dissemination, disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this message or any information contained in it is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender by reply e-mail and delete this message from your computer. Although we have taken steps to ensure that this e-mail and attachments are free from any virus, we advise that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient should ensure they are actually virus free. Illegitimi non carborundum
From: Michael Durfee [mailto:michaeld55aol.com ]
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 3:14 PM
Subject: RE: Poverty rates and race
This is from - http://www.childtrendsdatabank.org/?q=node/368 it deserves more response from us.
Important question that receives little attention. Blacks die twice as often as whites in the first year of life from many causes. Some years I found the black infant homicide rate higher than that. My career in public health included episodic training in “cultural sensitivity”. That was of some value but incredibly incomplete for addressing black infant homicide.
Do you have some references for the rest of us?
Michael
Michael Durfee MD
ICAN National Center for Child Fatality Review
Michaeld55aol.com
From: bounce-75376014-27571402list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-75376014-27571402list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Jane Marshall
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 1:59 PM
To: Child Maltreatment Researchers
Subject: Poverty rates and race
Could anyone offer some information on the following:
Poverty rates of black child welfare youth? Poverty rates of white child welfare youth?
Poverty rates of black delinquent youth? Poverty rates of white delinquent youth?
While research shows that a high percentage of youth involved with the child welfare and juvenile justice system are extremely poor, I wonder whether black CW and black delinquent youth are any more poor than white CW and delinquent youth.
Thanks for your help,
Jane
--
Jane Marie Marshall, PhD
Post Doctoral Research Associate
University of Minnesota
School of Social Work
http://www.cehd.umn.edu/SSW/g-s/
Author:Melanie Sage
Subject:Re: Poverty rates and race
I don't think we know whether private legal representation influences the likelihood of out-of-home placement. It is not my personal experience that private representation is more likely to lead to children remaining/returning home. Is there research that supports this? On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 9:40 PM, Peggy Taylor
I don't think we know whether private legal representation influences the likelihood of out-of-home placement. It is not my personal experience that private representation is more likely to lead to children remaining/returning home. Is there research that supports this? On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 9:40 PM, Peggy Taylor
