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Message ID: 8891
Date: 2011-07-14

Author:Claudette Lynn Grinnell-Davis

Subject:Re: David Ludwig's recommendation to use foster care to treat obese children

The rhetoric in childhood obesity is grossly oversimplified and we know too little about what can really cause obesity to make sweeping claims that foster care can fix this. Some thoughts: 1) I'm assuming this is being considered "neglect." Anyone tried existing on a low-income diet without gaining weight? It requires far more planning and time that many people in poverty in particular have the time to dedicate. 2) What's the relationship between poverty, stress, cortisol levels, food-as-coping, etc? People who are perpetually stressed have trouble maintaining healthy weight because cortisol maintains higher fat levels in the human body. And human beings use food to cope with stress. This is a vicious circle. 3) As a corollary to the above, putting children in foster care might actually exacerbate this whole problem by creating more stress, elevated cortisol, etc and thus make it harder to take the weight off. This is potentially a set-up for an epic fail. 4) What about neighborhood/school effects? If you don't have a means to get outside and play because it's unsafe, or your school cancels recess to enhance learning, that takes away from exercise. We don't need any more duplications of Chapin Hall studies on the impact of foster care to indicate that odds are only about as good as chance of correcting this problem in foster care. The foster care system is already overburdened. Foster care is *no* solution. What we really need to be looking at are the factors (micro and macro) that influence people's relationships with food, and how their bodies may be conspiring against them... this is a full-orbed bioecological systems question. Claudette L. Grinnell-Davis, MTS, MSW PhD Candidate, University of Michigan Joint Doctoral Program in Social Work and Social Science c/o University of Michigan School of Social Work 1080 S. University Ave. Ann Arbor, MI 48109 616.893.6845 (cell) clynngd@umich.edu "The most dangerous of all helpers is the one who has solved his or her own problem and has forgotten what it cost." - Alan Keith-Lucas. Quoting "W. Hobart Davies" : > We obviously need to be thinking outside the box to address this > problem, but I think an integrated response using Multisystems > Therapy, or a similar in-home "commando" intervention, would be more > effective, more cost-efficient, and more empowering. The intensive > in-home intervention would also give us the information we would > need when a case for removal needs to be made. > > Hobey > > W. Hobart Davies, Ph.D. > Professor of Psychology > University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "D F MCMAHON" > To: "Child Maltreatment Researchers" > > Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 10:57:04 AM > Subject: David Ludwig's recommendation to use foster care to treat > obese children > > > Any thoughts or responses? > > > Sheri McMahon > ND > > > >

The rhetoric in childhood obesity is grossly oversimplified and we know too little about what can really cause obesity to make sweeping claims that foster care can fix this. Some thoughts: 1) I'm assuming this is being considered "neglect." Anyone tried existing on a low-income diet without gaining weight? It requires far more planning and time that many people in poverty in particular have the time to dedicate. 2) What's the relationship between poverty, stress, cortisol levels, food-as-coping, etc? People who are perpetually stressed have trouble maintaining healthy weight because cortisol maintains higher fat levels in the human body. And human beings use food to cope with stress. This is a vicious circle. 3) As a corollary to the above, putting children in foster care might actually exacerbate this whole problem by creating more stress, elevated cortisol, etc and thus make it harder to take the weight off. This is potentially a set-up for an epic fail. 4) What about neighborhood/school effects? If you don't have a means to get outside and play because it's unsafe, or your school cancels recess to enhance learning, that takes away from exercise. We don't need any more duplications of Chapin Hall studies on the impact of foster care to indicate that odds are only about as good as chance of correcting this problem in foster care. The foster care system is already overburdened. Foster care is *no* solution. What we really need to be looking at are the factors (micro and macro) that influence people's relationships with food, and how their bodies may be conspiring against them... this is a full-orbed bioecological systems question. Claudette L. Grinnell-Davis, MTS, MSW PhD Candidate, University of Michigan Joint Doctoral Program in Social Work and Social Science c/o University of Michigan School of Social Work 1080 S. University Ave. Ann Arbor, MI 48109 616.893.6845 (cell) clynngdumich.edu "The most dangerous of all helpers is the one who has solved his or her own problem and has forgotten what it cost." - Alan Keith-Lucas. Quoting "W. Hobart Davies" : > We obviously need to be thinking outside the box to address this > problem, but I think an integrated response using Multisystems > Therapy, or a similar in-home "commando" intervention, would be more > effective, more cost-efficient, and more empowering. The intensive > in-home intervention would also give us the information we would > need when a case for removal needs to be made. > > Hobey > > W. Hobart Davies, Ph.D. > Professor of Psychology > University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "D F MCMAHON" > To: "Child Maltreatment Researchers" > > Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 10:57:04 AM > Subject: David Ludwig's recommendation to use foster care to treat > obese children > > > Any thoughts or responses? > > > Sheri McMahon > ND > > > >