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Message ID: 8277
Date: 2009-09-28

Author:Brian Morgan

Subject:Re: indicated reports vs unfounded reports

When the original question was posted I asked this: "By 'unfounded cases of abuse' do you mean unfounded allegations of abuse?" I don't recall seeing a response from the original poster. Dictionary definitions of 'unfounded' vary - 'having no foundation in fact' is one of them. Perhaps it would help if Todd Macdonald defined the term being used? Isn't it possible that repeated referrals of a 'case' which really is 'unfounded' may be the result of someone with an ulterior motive trying to harm a family member and the latter may not be the family child? The child may still suffer in the long term as a result. Brian Mr. Tong, the poster did not say "false allegations." A child can be injured, as was posted by another person here, and deny the accused did the harm, yet the harm was done. That is a child at risk even if charges can't be brought against an alleged perpetrator. There are many such cases I think. Please stick to the facts, and don't change the wording of the person you are questioning. It simply leads to conflict and loss of objectively and clarity. Some will think the person actually said, false allegations, when they did not. Unfounded does not mean false in all or even the majority of such cases necessarily. False allegations are a subcategory, another category, of unfounded. But there are many kinds. I hope I am clear enough on this. Thank you in advance for your consideration of my position on this question.

When the original question was posted I asked this: "By 'unfounded cases of abuse' do you mean unfounded allegations of abuse?" I don't recall seeing a response from the original poster. Dictionary definitions of 'unfounded' vary - 'having no foundation in fact' is one of them. Perhaps it would help if Todd Macdonald defined the term being used? Isn't it possible that repeated referrals of a 'case' which really is 'unfounded' may be the result of someone with an ulterior motive trying to harm a family member and the latter may not be the family child? The child may still suffer in the long term as a result. Brian Mr. Tong, the poster did not say "false allegations." A child can be injured, as was posted by another person here, and deny the accused did the harm, yet the harm was done. That is a child at risk even if charges can't be brought against an alleged perpetrator. There are many such cases I think. Please stick to the facts, and don't change the wording of the person you are questioning. It simply leads to conflict and loss of objectively and clarity. Some will think the person actually said, false allegations, when they did not. Unfounded does not mean false in all or even the majority of such cases necessarily. False allegations are a subcategory, another category, of unfounded. But there are many kinds. I hope I am clear enough on this. Thank you in advance for your consideration of my position on this question.