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Message ID: 8025
Date: 2009-01-20

Author:lfontesrcn.com

Subject:spanking, Dobson, etc.

Jim Dobson advocated hitting children as young as 9 months with a wooden spoon. I believe that posiiton has recently been taken off his website as he tries to appear more moderate in his views of child discipline. I think he is extremely dangerous and gives parents dangerous parenting advice in the guise of Christianity. (Thankfully, there are Christians who hold a different public stance--but Dobson does have a HUGE platform).



People who are interested in the U.S. campaign to end corporal punishment (modeled on successful campaigns in other countries) should go to:



http://stophitting.org/





Please feel free to contact me if you are interested in discussing cultural issues in discipline/physical abuse, or if you'd like me to send you an electronic version of articles I've written on this topic. I also have a chapter on this topic in my book: Child Abuse & Culture: Working with Diverse Families (Guilford Press).



Lisa Fontes, Ph.D.

Union Institute & University

LFontes @rcn.com



---- Original message ----

>Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 11:01:37 EST

>From: DeanTong@aol.com

>Subject: Child Trauma

>To: child-maltreatment-research-l@list.cornell.edu

>

> To further the discussion on child trauma relative

> to physical child abuse v. corporal punishment,

> let's look at the mandatory reporting laws under the

> Child Abuse Prevention & Treatment ACT (CAPTA). All

> mandated reporters are required by law to report any

> "reasonable suspicion" of child abuse. The Mandated

> Reporter must call a "Child Protective Agency" as

> soon as possible to make verbal report of

> "Reasonable Suspicion." -

> http://www.capcsac.org/training/laws

>

> The government, in the persons of Child Protective

> Services (CPS), is charged by our legislature to

> protect children from abuse and neglect. Each state

> may have a slightly varying definition of what

> "reasonable suspicion" is, but in California, for

> example, "Reasonable Suspicion" occurs when "it is

> objectively reasonable for a person to entertain

> such a suspicion, when based upon the facts that

> could cause a reasonable person in a like position,

> drawing when appropriate on his or her training and

> experience, to suspect child abuse." (California

> Penal Code 11166[a]).

>

> That said, when does "reasonable" become

> "unreasonable," or when does objectivity become

> subjectivity and perhaps the mark, or bruise, or

> welt being reported by the person was a "source

> misattribution error?" Perhaps, the child fell off

> of his/her bicycle or the child suffers from a

> consumption coagulopathy or platelet disorder and

> bruises easily and the doctor or nurse misdiagnosed

> the alleged abuse. Clearly, the line of demarcation

> separating corporal punishment v. physical child

> abuse is not black and white but very gray.

>

> We have risk assessment tools - psychometric tests -

> such as the Child Abuse Potential Inventory (CAP

> Form VI), CTS-PC, AAPI, et al which can be

> administered to parents accused of acts of physical

> child abuse to glean if they have a propensity or

> penchant to perpetrate such acts. The State does not

> make a good parent and I vehemently disagree that

> this is not a state control issue. It very much so

> is. Certainly, Dr. James Dobson agrees with the use

> of corporal punishment -

> http://www.creationists.org/corporalpunishment.html

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Dean Tong, MSc., Forensic Trial Consultant

> 604 Brentwood Place

> Brandon, FL 33511

>

> 813.657.4930, Ph/Fax

> 813.417.5362, Cell

> 800.854.0735, Books/Media

> http://www.abuse-excuse.com

> http://www.DeanTong.com

>

> Read Dean Tong's articles online at

> www.newswithviews.com/Tong/deanA.htm

>

> Disclaimer: Dean Tong is not an attorney licensed to

> practice law. His professional opinion herein must

> not be construed as legal advice. And the recipient

> of this e-mail should always first query an attorney

> for professional legal advice. If you are not the

> intended recipient of this e-mail please delete the

> same.





Jim Dobson advocated hitting children as young as 9 months with a wooden spoon. I believe that posiiton has recently been taken off his website as he tries to appear more moderate in his views of child discipline. I think he is extremely dangerous and gives parents dangerous parenting advice in the guise of Christianity. (Thankfully, there are Christians who hold a different public stance--but Dobson does have a HUGE platform).



People who are interested in the U.S. campaign to end corporal punishment (modeled on successful campaigns in other countries) should go to:



http://stophitting.org/





Please feel free to contact me if you are interested in discussing cultural issues in discipline/physical abuse, or if you'd like me to send you an electronic version of articles I've written on this topic. I also have a chapter on this topic in my book: Child Abuse & Culture: Working with Diverse Families (Guilford Press).



Lisa Fontes, Ph.D.

Union Institute & University

LFontes rcn.com



---- Original message ----

>Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 11:01:37 EST

>From: DeanTongaol.com

>Subject: Child Trauma

>To: child-maltreatment-research-llist.cornell.edu

>

> To further the discussion on child trauma relative

> to physical child abuse v. corporal punishment,

> let's look at the mandatory reporting laws under the

> Child Abuse Prevention & Treatment ACT (CAPTA). All

> mandated reporters are required by law to report any

> "reasonable suspicion" of child abuse. The Mandated

> Reporter must call a "Child Protective Agency" as

> soon as possible to make verbal report of

> "Reasonable Suspicion." -

> http://www.capcsac.org/training/laws

>

> The government, in the persons of Child Protective

> Services (CPS), is charged by our legislature to

> protect children from abuse and neglect. Each state

> may have a slightly varying definition of what

> "reasonable suspicion" is, but in California, for

> example, "Reasonable Suspicion" occurs when "it is

> objectively reasonable for a person to entertain

> such a suspicion, when based upon the facts that

> could cause a reasonable person in a like position,

> drawing when appropriate on his or her training and

> experience, to suspect child abuse." (California

> Penal Code 11166[a]).

>

> That said, when does "reasonable" become

> "unreasonable," or when does objectivity become

> subjectivity and perhaps the mark, or bruise, or

> welt being reported by the person was a "source

> misattribution error?" Perhaps, the child fell off

> of his/her bicycle or the child suffers from a

> consumption coagulopathy or platelet disorder and

> bruises easily and the doctor or nurse misdiagnosed

> the alleged abuse. Clearly, the line of demarcation

> separating corporal punishment v. physical child

> abuse is not black and white but very gray.

>

> We have risk assessment tools - psychometric tests -

> such as the Child Abuse Potential Inventory (CAP

> Form VI), CTS-PC, AAPI, et al which can be

> administered to parents accused of acts of physical

> child abuse to glean if they have a propensity or

> penchant to perpetrate such acts. The State does not

> make a good parent and I vehemently disagree that

> this is not a state control issue. It very much so

> is. Certainly, Dr. James Dobson agrees with the use

> of corporal punishment -

> http://www.creationists.org/corporalpunishment.html

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Dean Tong, MSc., Forensic Trial Consultant

> 604 Brentwood Place

> Brandon, FL 33511

>

> 813.657.4930, Ph/Fax

> 813.417.5362, Cell

> 800.854.0735, Books/Media

> http://www.abuse-excuse.com

> http://www.DeanTong.com

>

> Read Dean Tong's articles online at

> www.newswithviews.com/Tong/deanA.htm

>

> Disclaimer: Dean Tong is not an attorney licensed to

> practice law. His professional opinion herein must

> not be construed as legal advice. And the recipient

> of this e-mail should always first query an attorney

> for professional legal advice. If you are not the

> intended recipient of this e-mail please delete the

> same.