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Message ID: 7953
Date: 2008-12-15

Author:Sue Foley

Subject:Re: Question about the research re neurophysiological changes due to stress

Hi

I agree it is very frustrating - maybe it isn't quantified - and is

different for each individual child - I do keep seeing the same stories told

Sue

Sue Foley

B.Soc.Stud., M.A., M.S.W., M.Ed,

Consultant Accredited Social Worker



----- Original Message -----

From: "Toni Cavanagh Johnson"

To: "Child Maltreatment Researchers"



Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 9:43 AM

Subject: Re: Question about the research re neurophysiological changes due

to stress





>I can't get any of them to answer, including Bruce Perry! I really want

>to get some answers!! Anybody have any other ideas of who to contact with

>special expertise?

>

>

>

> Toni Cavanagh Johnson, Ph.D.

> 1101 Fremont Avenue, Suite 101

> South Pasadena, California 91030

> USA

> Tel: 626-799-4522

> FAX: 818-790-0139

> toni@tcavjohn.com

> www.tcavjohn.com

>

>

>

>

> On Dec 9, 2008, at 10:29 PM, Graham Vimpani wrote:

>

>> Toni, Why don't you ask Bruce Perry or Alan Schore or Megan Gunnar these

>> questions?

>> I suspect short sharp shocks like a frightening episode of abuse could

>> be as dangerous as prolonged stress, fear and trauma. Cortisol

>> responses suggest that chronic low level stress, such as poor quality

>> child care, has a significant impact on cortisol production - but how

>> that actually ties in with changes in the stress response system's

>> thermostatic setting, i'm not sure.

>> I think it would be a good dialogue to engage in with this group.

>> Graham

>>

>> Professor Graham Vimpani AM

>> Clinical Chair

>> Kaleidoscope in Greater Newcastle

>> Hunter Children's Health Network

>> Locked Bag 1

>> Hunter Region Mail Centre

>> NSW. 2310

>> Australia

>> Head of the Discipline of Paediatrics and Child Health

>> University of Newcastle

>>

>> Phone +612 4921 3673

>> Fax +612 4921 3599

>> mobile 0408 484 427

>> graham.vimpani@hnehealth.nsw.gov.au

>>>>> Toni Cavanagh Johnson 12/10/08 9:11 AM >>>

>> I should have said that I am familiar with Perry's and others' work.

>> I want to ask a few questions about this body of research.

>>

>> Here is the question.

>>

>> When researchers are discussing the effects of stress/trauma/domestic

>> violence on children and referring to physiological or

>> neurophysiological changes, what level of stress/trauma/domestic

>> violence are they referring to? I have never seen it quantified.

>>

>> My impression is that to cause long term neurobiological or

>> neurophysiological changes in an individual it would have to be

>> repeated over an extended period of time (weeks? months?) if the

>> amount of stress (no medical evidence of physical harm) was a 3-4 on a

>> 10 point scale in a 2 year old child. Anyone have any ideas?

>>

>> Toni Cavanagh Johnson, Ph.D.

>> 1101 Fremont Avenue, Suite 101

>> South Pasadena, California 91030

>> USA

>> Tel: 626-799-4522

>> FAX: 818-790-0139

>> toni@tcavjohn.com

>> www.tcavjohn.com

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> Begin forwarded message:

>>

>>> From: Toni Cavanagh Johnson

>>> Date: December 9, 2008 11:25:13 AM PST

>>> To: Child Maltreatment Researchers

>>>
>>>>

>>> Subject: Re: Question about the research re neurophysiological

>>> changes due to stress

>>> Reply-To: Child Maltreatment Researchers

>>>
>>>>

>>>

>>> Is there someone I can contact who can answer questions about

>>> neurophysiological changes due to stress? I would appreciate your

>>> expertise in this matter.

>>>

>>> Toni Cavanagh Johnson, Ph.D.

>>> 1101 Fremont Avenue, Suite 101

>>> South Pasadena, California 91030

>>> USA

>>> Tel: 626-799-4522

>>> FAX: 818-790-0139

>>> toni@tcavjohn.com

>>> www.tcavjohn.com

>>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>

>







Hi

I agree it is very frustrating - maybe it isn't quantified - and is

different for each individual child - I do keep seeing the same stories told

Sue

Sue Foley

B.Soc.Stud., M.A., M.S.W., M.Ed,

Consultant Accredited Social Worker



----- Original Message -----

From: "Toni Cavanagh Johnson"

To: "Child Maltreatment Researchers"



Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 9:43 AM

Subject: Re: Question about the research re neurophysiological changes due

to stress





>I can't get any of them to answer, including Bruce Perry! I really want

>to get some answers!! Anybody have any other ideas of who to contact with

>special expertise?

>

>

>

> Toni Cavanagh Johnson, Ph.D.

> 1101 Fremont Avenue, Suite 101

> South Pasadena, California 91030

> USA

> Tel: 626-799-4522

> FAX: 818-790-0139

> tonitcavjohn.com

> www.tcavjohn.com

>

>

>

>

> On Dec 9, 2008, at 10:29 PM, Graham Vimpani wrote:

>

>> Toni, Why don't you ask Bruce Perry or Alan Schore or Megan Gunnar these

>> questions?

>> I suspect short sharp shocks like a frightening episode of abuse could

>> be as dangerous as prolonged stress, fear and trauma. Cortisol

>> responses suggest that chronic low level stress, such as poor quality

>> child care, has a significant impact on cortisol production - but how

>> that actually ties in with changes in the stress response system's

>> thermostatic setting, i'm not sure.

>> I think it would be a good dialogue to engage in with this group.

>> Graham

>>

>> Professor Graham Vimpani AM

>> Clinical Chair

>> Kaleidoscope in Greater Newcastle

>> Hunter Children's Health Network

>> Locked Bag 1

>> Hunter Region Mail Centre

>> NSW. 2310

>> Australia

>> Head of the Discipline of Paediatrics and Child Health

>> University of Newcastle

>>

>> Phone +612 4921 3673

>> Fax +612 4921 3599

>> mobile 0408 484 427

>> graham.vimpanihnehealth.nsw.gov.au

>>>>> Toni Cavanagh Johnson 12/10/08 9:11 AM >>>

>> I should have said that I am familiar with Perry's and others' work.

>> I want to ask a few questions about this body of research.

>>

>> Here is the question.

>>

>> When researchers are discussing the effects of stress/trauma/domestic

>> violence on children and referring to physiological or

>> neurophysiological changes, what level of stress/trauma/domestic

>> violence are they referring to? I have never seen it quantified.

>>

>> My impression is that to cause long term neurobiological or

>> neurophysiological changes in an individual it would have to be

>> repeated over an extended period of time (weeks? months?) if the

>> amount of stress (no medical evidence of physical harm) was a 3-4 on a

>> 10 point scale in a 2 year old child. Anyone have any ideas?

>>

>> Toni Cavanagh Johnson, Ph.D.

>> 1101 Fremont Avenue, Suite 101

>> South Pasadena, California 91030

>> USA

>> Tel: 626-799-4522

>> FAX: 818-790-0139

>> tonitcavjohn.com

>> www.tcavjohn.com

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> Begin forwarded message:

>>

>>> From: Toni Cavanagh Johnson

>>> Date: December 9, 2008 11:25:13 AM PST

>>> To: Child Maltreatment Researchers

>>>
>>>>

>>> Subject: Re: Question about the research re neurophysiological

>>> changes due to stress

>>> Reply-To: Child Maltreatment Researchers

>>>
>>>>

>>>

>>> Is there someone I can contact who can answer questions about

>>> neurophysiological changes due to stress? I would appreciate your

>>> expertise in this matter.

>>>

>>> Toni Cavanagh Johnson, Ph.D.

>>> 1101 Fremont Avenue, Suite 101

>>> South Pasadena, California 91030

>>> USA

>>> Tel: 626-799-4522

>>> FAX: 818-790-0139

>>> tonitcavjohn.com

>>> www.tcavjohn.com

>>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>

>