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<DIV>Re: objects:</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Child abuse/neglect policy is always going to be implemented within the 
framework of established law, which is also going to include caselaw. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>In the mid-80's, Christian parents who used a plastic spoon for spanking 
were the subjects of a substantiated child abuse finding. No criminal charges 
were pressed. The CA/N finding was appealed to the state Supreme Court, which 
affirmed that the use of the spoon did not constitute abuse under the legal 
definition of abuse (which included significant physical or emotional harm). 
Since then, there have been instances in which local agencies have disregarded 
(or are not familiar with) the state court finding and announce to parents that 
corporal punishment with an object is illegal, period. I have detailed knowledge 
of two of those instances in which the parents used the particular case to 
overturn administrative findings regarding alleged abuse. The parents had been 
told by CA/N investigators--as other parents are likely told and seem to 
believe--that corporal punishment is illegal, period. (In one case, the father 
had been arrested by a police detective who found himself having to acknowledge 
his own parenting practices, including spanking, on the witness stand). </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>That U.S. laws and courts do not follow European trends is not at all 
surprising (think national health care, capital punishment, drug policy). And 
professionals do work within their cultures. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>In states where corporal punishment is allowed in schools, an object is 
used. Any views or objective evidence on whether there is any fundamental 
difference in using an object vs. using a hand? I suppose the rationale is that 
the parent using their hand can judge the force of the blow--but is that even 
accurate? A flat object disperses the physical force in ways a hand might 
not--not to mention the difference between a flat object and a narrow belt or 
piece of electrical wire (yet a parent who uses a wide belt is&nbsp;apt to be 
perceived as more aggressive and violent than one who uses a narrow belt). What 
about the difference between a spank on the buttocks of a toddler who is 
standing vs. forcing a child to lie down flat, face down (talk about vulnerable 
position) to receive a spanking? </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I think in loco parentis generally does not mean state power--it means 
whoever is standing in the place of a parent (such as in school, care-giving 
situations--and until the early 70's, colleges and universities); parens patrie 
refers to the power of the state to intercede. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Sheri McMahon</DIV>
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<DIV>&nbsp;<STRONG>From:</STRONG> <A title=plehmann@uta.edu 
href="mailto:plehmann@uta.edu";>Lehmann, Peter</A> </DIV>
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
  title=child-maltreatment-research-l@list.cornell.edu 
  href="mailto:child-maltreatment-research-l@list.cornell.edu";>Child 
  Maltreatment Researchers</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 18, 2009 4:07 
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: child trauma</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Tahoma color=#000000 size=2>Some years ago at the 
  first conference on children exposed to domestic violence in London Canada I 
  heard Murray Straus say&nbsp; there was one thing that would dramatically cut 
  the rates at which children experience maltreatment;&nbsp;</FONT><FONT 
  face=tahoma>teach, support,&nbsp;and encourage parents&nbsp;not to 
  spank.&nbsp;&nbsp;So, it is still pretty amazing that in 2009 and after the 
  evidence&nbsp;is in,&nbsp;the professional field is&nbsp;still in favor of 
  saying that under certain conditions and using certain techniques&nbsp;it's 
  ok. p in tx</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> 
  bounce-3471979-6833529@list.cornell.edu 
  [bounce-3471979-6833529@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of DeanTong@aol.com 
  [DeanTong@aol.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 16, 2009 9:23 
  AM<BR><B>To:</B> 
  child-maltreatment-research-l@list.cornell.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: child 
  trauma<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
  <DIV></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT id=role_document face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>
  <DIV>This APA release <A href="http://www.apa.org/releases/spanking.html"; 
  target=_blank>http://www.apa.org/releases/spanking.html</A>&nbsp;for the most 
  part reinforces Gershoff's findings. It does allude to the fact that corporal 
  punishment (Most true Christians insist on following-up corporal punishment 
  with a hug of the child) does bring immediate child compliance. Dr. Straus and 
  I, et al, argued our points on this very topic about 10 years ago at a 
  conference in the beltway.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>I'm torn between the fairly strong empirical data that shows parents 
  shouldn't administer slaps, whacks, et al for disciplinary reasons, and taking 
  away parents' rights to control their children's behaviors so long as they 
  don't leave "significant welts or bruises." And in my 25 years in this issue 
  I've always told parents to only apply an open hand on the buttocks and to no 
  other anatomical area and with no other tool (spoon, coat hanger, strap, belt, 
  et al).</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Other alternative disciplinary&nbsp;measures such as "time out" or 
  "taking away privileges" are not absolute remedies in controlling children's 
  aberrant behaviors. And as someone who has consulted with thousands of 
  families since 1984 on this very topic I always worry about giving more 
  control to the State. In law, this is called in loco parentis or parens 
  patriae. I'm certain our incoming Secretary of State, the author of the book 
  "It Takes A Village," Hillary Clinton, would concur with Dr. Straus' findings 
  herein. That said, is there still not a line of demarcation between the 
  administration of corporal punishment and physical child abuse?</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Dean Tong</DIV>
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  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT lang=0 face=Arial size=2><BR>&nbsp;<BR>Dean Tong, MSc., Forensic 
  Trial Consultant<BR>604 Brentwood Place<BR>Brandon, FL 
  33511<BR><BR>813.657.4930, Ph/Fax<BR>813.417.5362, Cell<BR>800.854.0735, 
  Books/Media<BR><A href="http://www.abuse-excuse.com/"; 
  target=_blank>http://www.abuse-excuse.com</A><BR><A 
  href="http://www.deantong.com/"; 
  target=_blank>http://www.DeanTong.com</A></FONT><FONT lang=0 face=Arial 
  color=#8000ff size=2><BR><BR><BR>Read </FONT><FONT lang=0 face=Arial 
  color=#800040 size=2><I>Dean Tong's</FONT><FONT lang=0 face=Arial 
  color=#000080 size=2></I> articles</FONT><FONT lang=0 face=Arial color=#400080 
  size=2> online at<BR><B><I><A 
  href="http://www.newswithviews.com/Tong/deanA.htm"; 
  target=_blank>www.newswithviews.com/Tong/deanA.htm</A></B></I></FONT><FONT 
  lang=0 face=Arial color=#800080 size=2><BR><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 face=Arial 
  color=#000000 size=2><I><U><BR>Disclaimer</I></U>: <B>Dean Tong is not an 
  attorney licensed to practice law. His professional opinion herein must not be 
  construed as legal advice. And the recipient of this e-mail should always 
  first query an attorney for professional legal advice. If you are not the 
  intended recipient of this e-mail please delete the same. 
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>
  <DIV>In a message dated 1/16/2009 9:57:42 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
  murray.straus@unh.edu writes:</DIV>
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    <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Dear 
    Todd &amp; List:</SPAN></P>
    <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN 
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    <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">The 
    most pervasive, and also the most ignored child trauma, is being hit by 
    parents in the name of "discipline."&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Our national surveys 
    and other studies have found that at least a third of parents hit infants -- 
    typically a slap on the hand for touching something forbidden or dangerous 
    or for repeatedly pushing food off a high chair tray.&nbsp; The percentage 
    increases to over 90% &nbsp;for spanking or slapping toddlers.&nbsp; 
    American culture (and most others) define this as harmless if done "in 
    moderation" by loving parents.&nbsp;&nbsp; However, the empirical evidence 
    indicates the harmlessness is a cultural myth.&nbsp;&nbsp;</SPAN></P>
    <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
    <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Below 
    is a list of some of the studies providing the evidence indicating that 
    being hit by parents is a traumatic experience for children, and that it has 
    the typical effects of being a victim of a traumatic experience.&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    All of the studies are available in the Corporal Punishment Pape</SPAN><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">rs 
    section of my website <A title=http://pubpages.unh.edu/~mas2 
    href="http://pubpages.unh.edu/~mas2"; 
    target=_blank>http://pubpages.unh.edu/~mas2</A>&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN></P>
    <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
    <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">These 
    studies, which can be downloaded from my website, have found that more 
    corporal punishment, the greater the probability of:</SPAN></P>
    <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN 
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    <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">* 
    Post traumatic stress symptoms (paper CP67 - paper in preparation, but 
    preliminary Power Point is on my website)</SPAN></P>
    <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">* 
    Slower than average growth in cognitive ability (paper CP51R)</SPAN></P>
    <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">* 
    Antisocial behavior (paper CP24)</SPAN></P>
    <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">* 
    Depressive symptoms (paper CP03)</SPAN></P>
    <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">* 
    Physical violence to dating and marital partners later in life (paper 
    CP23)</SPAN></P>
    <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">* 
    A summary of longitudinal studies which help establish the causal direction 
    (paper CP41)</SPAN></P>
    <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
    <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">The 
    "effect sizes" for the above are low, but because corporal punishment is 
    experienced by over 90% of American children, the cumulative adverse effect 
    on American children and American society is very large (see page 212 of 
    attached paper CP41 on Benefits of Never Spanking).</SPAN></P>
    <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
    <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Also 
    of interest may be the following on my website</SPAN></P>
    <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN 
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    <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">* 
    National survey showing that 94% of parents hit toddlers, at least 
    occasionally (paper CP36)</SPAN></P>
    <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">* 
    Article documenting the neglect in the scholarly literature of research 
    showing harmful effects of corporal punishment (paper 
    CP65)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
</SPAN></P>
    <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
    <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">I 
    also recommend the following excellent meta analysis:</SPAN><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"> </SPAN></P>
    <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
    <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.5in"><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Gershoff, E. T. 
    (2002). Corporal punishment by parents and associated child behaviors and 
    experiences: A meta-analytic and theoretical review. <I>Psychological 
    Bulletin, 128</I>, 539-579.</SPAN></P>
    <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN 
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    <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN 
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    </SPAN></P>
    <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Best,</SPAN></P>
    <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
    <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    Murray</SPAN></P>
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    <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN 
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    <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Murray 
    A. Straus<BR>Professor of Sociology and Co-Director<BR>Family Research 
    Laboratory<BR>University of New Hampshire, Durham, NH 03824<BR>603-862-2594 
    Fax: 603-862-1122 </SPAN><A title=mailto:murray.straus@unh.edu 
    href="mailto:murray.straus@unh.edu";><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">murray.straus@unh.edu</SPAN></A><SPAN 
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    <BR></SPAN><SPAN 
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    style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"> 
    <BR></SPAN><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Copies 
    of many of my papers and some out-of-print books can be downloaded from my 
    website </SPAN><A title=http://pubpages.unh.edu/~mas2 
    href="http://pubpages.unh.edu/~mas2"; target=_blank><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">http://pubpages.unh.edu/~mas2</SPAN></A><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">. 
    For information about the Family Research Laboratory, conferences, and 
    bibliographies of publications by members of the laboratory log into 
    </SPAN><A title=http://www.unh.edu/frl href="http://www.unh.edu/frl"; 
    target=_blank><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">www.unh.edu/frl</SPAN></A><SPAN 
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    bounce-3453666-6832966@list.cornell.edu 
    [mailto:bounce-3453666-6832966@list.cornell.edu] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Todd 
    McDonald<BR><B>Sent:</B> 2009-01-12 11:12<BR><B>To:</B> 
    child-maltreatment-research-l@list.cornell.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> child 
    trauma</SPAN></P></DIV>
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          <P class=MsoNormal>List members, could someone point me towards some 
          of the most recent empirical studies of child trauma?&nbsp; We 
          recently purchased the child welfare trauma training toolkit, but 
          would like our staff to read a few articles about trauma in 
          advance.&nbsp; </P></DIV>
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