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Re: child welfare demographics - by county



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<div>List member, I am especially interested in how demographics change as children move through the system, especially for african american children.&nbsp; is there a flow chart that documents these changing demographics?&nbsp; calls to hotline, investigations, substantiated reports, placements, etc.&nbsp;</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>TM<BR><BR><B><I>Todd McDonald &lt;tmac5528@yahoo.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:</div>  <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">  <DIV>List Members, is there a way to look at county statistics for child welfare populations on line?&nbsp; i am interested in the demographics for youth in out of home placements.&nbsp; </DIV>  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>  <DIV>TM<BR><BR><B><I>Rick Barth &lt;rbarth@email.unc.edu&gt;</I></B> wrote:</DIV>  <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">There is certainly coonsiderable data on this question --Fred
 Wulczyn <BR>has recently written about rural urban differences from the perspective <BR>of disparity and disproportionality (see th Chapin Hall website for <BR>leads) and my colleagues and I have published about this in the American <BR>Journal of Orthopsychiatry, in 2006, using NSCAW as our source of <BR>information. In that analysis we showed that children and families in <BR>urban areas who enter foster care have very different characteristics <BR>than those in nonurban areas--with children in nonurban areas being much <BR>more likely to have clinical or borderline CBCL scores and families less <BR>likely to have the typical indicators of parental incapacity (such <BR>indicators as extreme poverty, substance abuse, domestic violence and so <BR>on).<BR><BR>So, your hypothesis that looking at the limits of looking at this <BR>through a child abuse and neglect lens is confirmed. The entire basis <BR>for the CFSR and our national accountability system is that children who
 <BR>come into contact with CWS are similar across settings and the variation <BR>is in how the agency performs in achieving a fixed set of outcomes for <BR>them; nothing could be much farther from the truth. Although there are <BR>some commonalities acros areas--e.g., infants and adolescents are the <BR>largest relative groups entering out of home care and African American <BR>and Native American children are more likely to enter out of home <BR>care--there are huge differences in the caseloads and, hence, any effort <BR>to apply the CFSR outcomes to "incentivize" best practice should be <BR>highly restricted and balanced by a range of indicators of best <BR>practice. In time, we should move toward different indicators for <BR>children who come into contact with CWS at different ages.<BR><BR>Richard P. Barth, PhD<BR>Dean and Professor<BR>School of Social Work<BR>University of Maryland<BR>Baltimore, MD 21201<BR>rbarth@ssw.umaryland.edu<BR><BR>D F MCMAHON wrote:<BR><BR>&gt;
 Many of the states with very high rates of removal have some things in <BR>&gt; common: they are rural states, many of them in the prairie/plains <BR>&gt; region of the U.S. One explanation that is offered is that services <BR>&gt; are less available in rural areas, particularly what in the northern <BR>&gt; plains are called "frontier counties." However, I live in North Dakota <BR>&gt; and am watching the development of a child welfare funding dispute <BR>&gt; between the most populous county and the state. One fact that has <BR>&gt; emerged is that, with about a fifth of the state's population, the <BR>&gt; county has about half the kids who are wards of the state (parental <BR>&gt; rights have been terminated). The county also has 27% of the state's <BR>&gt; foster children. Right now I have no information as to where these <BR>&gt; cases originated--but my impression is that generally cases stay in <BR>&gt; the county where they started. State officials are developing
 a report <BR>&gt; at this time which may provide some answers to the demographics in the <BR>&gt; state.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I'm not convinced that political culture has much to do with it. <BR>&gt; Politically conservative states with minimal investment in human <BR>&gt; services have placement rates similar to politically more liberal <BR>&gt; states with much more substantial investment. The Dakotas, Montana, <BR>&gt; Nebraska--compared with Minnesota, Iowa. But is there a distinct <BR>&gt; cultural viewpoint--not specifically related to child welfare but <BR>&gt; ultimately impacting child welfare decisions? (In that case, is it <BR>&gt; possible that looking at CA/N factors is not always the right place to <BR>&gt; look???)<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I'm wondering what kind of handle anyone has on rural vs. urban out of <BR>&gt; home placement rates relative to child population within states. The <BR>&gt; thoughts that come to me are:<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Urban areas are associated
 with greater range of problems--but also <BR>&gt; have more access to services other than out of home placement.<BR>&gt; Population characteristics of rural vs. urban regions within in states <BR>&gt; that are significantly rural.<BR>&gt; Local culture in rural counties (on the one hand, lack of services <BR>&gt; leads to removal, on the other hand, reluctance to interfere in <BR>&gt; families' lives and/or cultural assumptions about families in <BR>&gt; communities where families have lived for generations)<BR>&gt; Diversity (or lack thereof, or degree of cultural barriers between <BR>&gt; diverse groups--in these states, native American populations vs white <BR>&gt; definitely come to mind)<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Sheri McMahon<BR><BR><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>  <div>  <HR SIZE=1>  Looking for last minute shopping deals? <A href="http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51734/*http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping";>Find them fast with Yahoo!
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