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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=531250201-15022007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>If you could back up for a moment...what's the basis of the
assertion that there is, currently, widespread disbelief about sexual abuse
claims? There is a range of opinion on these issues, and certainly there
are strong advocacy groups on each side - of course, the midrange includes
professionals who base their opinions on the relevant research and the facts of
a case. (I have no opinion about the "truth" in the McMartin case, as I
didn't personally interview anyone or review all the facts of the case, other
than the fact that many interviews were poorly done.) I'm sure that case
is cited by those who are inclined to disbelieve cases of abuse - hopefully, it
is also cited by those who suspect that these children were abused and the cases
lost due to poor interview technique. If there is evidence as to the
"widespread disbelief" based on this case, I'd be very interested in seeing it,
as it would be important data for us all to have.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>Lyn R. Greenberg, Ph.D.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT size=2><EM>Forensic and Clinical
Psychology</EM></FONT></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B>
owner-CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu
[mailto:owner-CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Thomas D. Lyon<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 14, 2007 12:42
PM<BR><B>To:</B> Child Maltreatment Researchers<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: McMartin
reference<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Here’s some archived
discussion of these issues from the child maltreatment research listserv several
years ago (I don’t know what to think about any of this):</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From under006@tc.umn.edu Mon Feb 26 10:48:00
2001</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Date: Tue, 13 Feb 01 09:30:49 -0600</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From: under006
<under006@tc.umn.edu></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Reply-To:
CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">To: Child Maltreatment Researchers</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Cc: Child Maltreatment List
<CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Subject: Re: McMartin case facts</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Before you are tempted to give any credence to the
McMartin tunnel myth that is propogated by Summit and the other true believers,
read the article by John Earl:</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Earl, J. (1995). The dark truth about the "dark tunnels
of McMartin". Issues In Child Abuse Accusations, 7(2),
76­131.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">This article, which very convincingly debunks the claim
that tunnels were found, can be found on our web page:</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">ipt-forensics.com</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Hollida Wakefield</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">>Subject: Re: McMartin case
facts</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">>Sent:
2/10/20 2:33 AM</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">>Received: 2/13/01 9:24
AM</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">>From: Lori
A Hack, twcurtis@juno.com</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">>Reply-To: Child Maltreatment List,
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<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">>CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">>To:
Child Maltreatment List, </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">>CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">>CC:
Child Maltreatment List, </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">>CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> Carl Raschke's book
"Painted Black" (1990) contains an excellent,</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">>well-documented account of the evidence in the
McMartin case. He points</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">>out much of the evidence that was ignored by the
press generally, in</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">>addition to interviews with the jurors who mostly
believed the children</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">>were molested but were not sure who did it. I
believe Raschke is at the</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">>University of Denver.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> The actual photographs and
a description of the dig by a forensic</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">>archeologist are included in the book "Other Alters"
by Craig Lockwood.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">>It is a very good, but nonacademic
source.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> As researchers we are wise
to bear in mind that an acquittal can mean</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">>many things, innocence only one of the many
interpretations. Those who</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">>dismiss evidence as from "true believers" without
looking at the evidence</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">>simply become ignorant true believers of another
cause.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> I believe both books are
out of print, but I got them from Amazon.com. </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">>I could also fax/send you copies of relevant
portions. Your name seems</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">>very familiar to me. I am a grad student, perhaps I
read some of your</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">>work recently? </SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
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<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Ralph Underwager & Hollida
Wakefield</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">13200 Cannon City Blvd</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Northfield</SPAN></FONT>, MN 55057</P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">507.645.8881 voice</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">507.645.8883 fax</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">E-mail:
mailto:under006@tc.umn.edu</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Website:
http://www.ipt-forensics.com/</SPAN></FONT></P>
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owner-CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu
[mailto:owner-CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Lisa fontes<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, February 14, 2007 8:44
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Child Maltreatment
Researchers<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE:
McMartin reference</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=4><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">What exactly I’m
looking for....IS there solid forensic evidence that the tunnels were real or
that the abuse happened? I know the answer may be inconclusive, but so much of
the disbelief about sexual abuse seems to hinge on this case, as silly as that
is, and so I am trying to figure out whether I need to be saying, “The
archeological evidence shows clear evidence that the tunnels that were described
by the children in fact existed” or something else. I am glad we now know enough
to handle these cases differently, but the “reality” of this particular case
seems to have an iconic place in the public discussion of sexual abuse. There
have been some recent cases which are in many ways quite similar to McMartin but
where current interviewing techniques and police investigative techniques have
been strong enough to encourage confessions and convictions. Why these newer
cases don’t seem to change the public opinion of “the witch hunt” and the “child
abuse industry” is beyond me. I think it’s time for an article in a widely read
newspaper or magazine, available to the public, to collect and comment on these
more recent cases. I’m not going to write it but I hope someone
is!</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Lisa Fontes,
Ph.D.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=4><SPAN lang=FR
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Union Institute &
University</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B>
owner-CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu
[mailto:owner-CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Lyn R. Greenberg<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tuesday, February 13, 2007 3:15
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Child Maltreatment
Researchers<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE:
McMartin reference</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">There are also scholarly studies by
people who have reviewed the interview tapes specifically. Ceci's work focused
more on the interviewing methods in the Wee Care case, although many were
similar. What, exactly, are you looking for here?</SPAN></FONT></P>
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owner-CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu
[mailto:owner-CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>DeanTong@aol.com<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tuesday, February 13, 2007 10:36
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Child Maltreatment
Researchers<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re:
McMartin reference</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">In a message dated 2/13/2007 1:31:52
PM Eastern Standard Time, lfontes@rcn.com writes:</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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a quick and easily accessible reference where the truth about the McMartin
case is discussed.</SPAN></FONT></P></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
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