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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
14.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>What exactly I&#8217;m looking for....IS
there solid forensic evidence that the tunnels were real or that the abuse
happened? I know the answer may be inconclusive, but so much of the disbelief
about sexual abuse seems to hinge on this case, as silly as that is, and so I
am trying to figure out whether I need to be saying, &#8220;The archeological
evidence shows clear evidence that the tunnels that were described by the
children in fact existed&#8221; or something else. I am glad we now know enough
to handle these cases differently, but the &#8220;reality&#8221; of this
particular case seems to have an iconic place in the public discussion of
sexual abuse. There have been some recent cases which are in many ways quite
similar to McMartin but where current interviewing techniques and police
investigative techniques have been strong enough to encourage confessions and
convictions. Why these newer cases don&#8217;t seem to change the public
opinion of &#8220;the witch hunt&#8221; and the &#8220;child abuse industry&#8221;
is beyond me. I think it&#8217;s time for an article in a widely read newspaper
or magazine, available to the public, to collect and comment on these more
recent cases. I&#8217;m not going to write it but I hope someone is!</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color=blue face=Arial><span lang=FR
style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Lisa Fontes, Ph.D.</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
owner-CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu
[mailto:owner-CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Lyn R. Greenberg<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, February 13, 2007
3:15 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Child Maltreatment Researchers<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: McMartin reference</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>There are also scholarly studies by
people who have reviewed the interview tapes specifically. Ceci's work focused
more on the interviewing methods in the Wee Care case, although many were
similar.&nbsp; What, exactly, are you looking for here?</span></font></p>

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Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> owner-CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu
[mailto:owner-CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>DeanTong@aol.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, February 13, 2007
10:36 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Child Maltreatment Researchers<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: McMartin reference</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>In a message dated 2/13/2007 1:31:52
PM Eastern Standard Time, lfontes@rcn.com writes:</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I need a quick and easily
accessible reference where the truth about the McMartin case is discussed.</span></font></p>

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href="http://www.crimelibrary.com/criminal_mind/psychology/mcmartin_daycare/1.html";>http://www.crimelibrary.com/criminal_mind/psychology/mcmartin_daycare/1.html</a></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial PTSIZE=10
FAMILY=SANSSERIF><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Dean Tong,
MSc., Forensic Trial Consultant<br>
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