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Re: Professor Sir Roy Meadow struck off medical register
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I've just come in the door from the WOMAD festival in Reading, UK, and
pleased to<br>
see debate on this.<br>
<br>
Does anyone remember refrigerator mothers maybe?<br>
<br>
But apropos Meadow and the shredded research data, there's an
interesting item by former BMJ<br>
editor Richard Smith whom I have not always<br>
seen eye-to-eye on the question of bad science in medicine, because
that is where<br>
I come from as a physicist first and now a journalist with many detours
between.<br>
<br>
<font size="2"><font face="Verdana">BMJ 2005;331:288-291 (30 July),
doi:10.1136/bmj.331.7511.288 <br>
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<h3><font size="2"><font color="#63ceff"
face="verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Education and debate</font></font></h3>
<h2><font size="2">Investigating the previous studies of a fraudulent
author </font></h2>
<font size="2"><strong>Richard Smith</strong>, <i>chief executive</i><sup>1</sup>
</font><font size="2"><font size="-1"><sup>1</sup> UnitedHealth Europe,
London SW1P 1SB </font>
</font><font size="2"><font size="-1">Correspondence to: <span id="em0"><a
href="javascript:parent.ComposeTo('richardswsmith@yahoo.co.uk');">richardswsmith@yahoo.co.uk</a></span>
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</font><font size="2"><font face="verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif"
size="2">This year, the journal <i>Nutrition</i> retracted a study by
R K Chandra,<sup> </sup>and questions have been raised about the
integrity of the rest<sup> </sup>of his work. Who has the
responsibility for investigating previous<sup> </sup>work and if
necessary punishing the researcher and correcting<sup> </sup>the
scientific record?<sup> </sup>
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<font size="2"><a target="_blank" name="BDY"></a></font><br>
<br>
Regards<br>
<br>
Brian Morgan<br>
<br>
psylevin wrote:<br>
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: Professor
Sir Roy
Meadow struck off medical register</span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">I
certainly agree with you. There is also evidence
that one of the problems that was pervasive in Sir Roy Meadow's career
was a
fundamental failure to understand the rudiments of the scientific
method. Some
of this is exemplified by his work on the personality charateristics of
supposed MSBP mothers. Among some of the obvious methodological
problems were
problems in the definition of a positive case, small sample size,
failure to
use a clinical non-MSBP comparison sample etc. I could go on and on,
but it is
of concern that the MSBP theoretical edifice is built on a foundation
of
science that would not pass muster in an undergraduate statistics
class. It
long past time that MSBP, MBSP, FDBP and PCF be abandoned in favor of
something
like "medical child abuse" so we can get rid of all the
pseudoscientific baggage. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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> On Wed, 27 Jul 2005, Brian Morgan wrote: <br>
> [snip] <br>
> <br>
> > Some have already argued that when an eminent expert slips in
one <br>
> > respect then maybe <br>
> > other parts of his work should also be examined. He did after
all
shred <br>
> > (or had shredded) all his paperwork <br>
> > and data from his research and case studies so they could not
be <br>
> > independently reviewed <br>
> > to validate the opinions expressed in court. <br>
> <br>
> This is wrong. This is wrong everywhere that I know of, even if it
is <br>
> simply a research paper being published, let alone evidentiary
material <br>
> where life and liberty are at stake. <br>
> <br>
> You cannot punish a researcher enough for this kind of fraud.
(Sure, <br>
> maybe the destroyed data DID support his! conclusions. Just where
is the <br>
> evidence for that, now?) <br>
> <br>
> -- <br>
> John M. Price, PhD <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jmprice@calweb.com";>jmprice@calweb.com</a> <br>
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