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RE: demographic categories--race & culture

To: Child Maltreatment Researchers <CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: demographic categories--race & culture
From: "Ken Prescott" <krprescott@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 11:57:52 -0800
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<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size=3><SPAN class=400014819-13122002>There are 
probably a few other groups we could include, depending on how big or how fine 
the lens is that you or anyone wants to include.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size=3><SPAN class=400014819-13122002>However, 
to continue to use White and Black as designators for race, perpetuates a 
conflictual definition of the two groups.&nbsp; White and Black are opposites 
(don't jump in here about color theory), just like up and don't, in and out, 
over and under.&nbsp; Old language can communicate old ideas, perpetuating 
differences in subtle ways.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size=3><SPAN class=400014819-13122002>My lineage 
comes from largely northern European ancestry.&nbsp; I do my family's genealogy 
as a hobby.&nbsp; So, I could actually say that there are at least a half dozen 
or more countries of origin in my family.&nbsp; But European is clear 
enough.&nbsp; Thus I prefer European American or Euro-American rather than 
White.&nbsp; More currently,&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" 
size=3><SPAN class=400014819-13122002>I am a 
Californian.&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size=3><SPAN class=400014819-13122002>Ken 
Prescott, MSW, LCSW</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size=3><SPAN class=400014819-13122002>Los 
Angeles, California</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Latinos</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>White/Caucasian</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Black/African/African-American</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Asian/Asian-American</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Native American/American Indian</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader><FONT face="Times New Roman" 
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
owner-CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu 
[mailto:owner-CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu]<B>On Behalf Of</B> 
Mario L. Marberry<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, December 13, 2002 10:39 
AM<BR><B>To:</B> Child Maltreatment Researchers<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: 
demographic categories--race &amp; culture<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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      <DIV>You left out Latinos as a category and secondly why does the group 
      "White/Caucasian" always come first in checklists even though 
      alphabetically it&nbsp;doesn't come first?<BR>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>Mario L. Marberry, MSW, LCSW</DIV>
      <DIV>Child Welfare Fellow</DIV>
      <DIV>School of Social Welfare</DIV>
      <DIV>University of Kansas</DIV>
      <DIV>email: <A href="mailto:marberry@ku.edu";>marberry@ku.edu</A></DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>If I'm the descendant of kings and queens, doesn't that make me 
      royalty?</DIV>
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      <DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>From:</B></I> <A 
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      <DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>Date:</B></I> Friday, December 
      13, 2002 09:07:38</DIV>
      <DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>To:</B></I> <A 
      href="mailto:CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu";>Child Maltreatment 
      Researchers</A></DIV>
      <DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>Subject:</B></I> demographic 
      categories--race &amp; culture</DIV></DIV>
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      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have been asked (informally) to help a 
      large U.S. organization tht works with child abuse&nbsp;internationally 
      revise their forms so the categories for ethnicity and race make sense. 
      This is slightly complicated by the fact that not all respondents are from 
      the U.S,, but most will be. Race seems relatively easy to me:</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Check the following categories that best 
      apply to you:</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>White/Caucasian</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Black/African/African-American</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Asian/Asian-American</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Native American/American Indian</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>(I am including the opportunity to check more 
      than one category so multiracial people can identify as 
such).</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>But do people have some suggestions about 
      ethnicity? As I began to think this through I realized that the boundaries 
      between ethicity (e.g., African American) and National origin (e.g. 
      Jamaican Mom and U.S. Black Dad) become fuzzy. So I was left thinking that 
      3 categories are really needed: race, ethnicity, and national 
      origin.</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If anyone has worked this all out on their 
      forms and wouldbe willing to send me their categories, I'd be grateful not 
      to have to reinvent this. I'm also interested in knowing what others are 
      thinking about around demographics.</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>THanks!<BR>Lisa Fontes, Ph.D.</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><A 
      href="mailto:lfontes@rcn.com";>lfontes@rcn.com</A></FONT></DIV>
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