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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>My experience is that most folks I
encounter that are refugees or have immigrated from Africa feel extremely
offended when placed in the same category as African Americans--are the
categories going to be checked by the professionals or by the people being
served? Also, there might be a need for including people from Arab nations
in the list. Good luck--this is a complicated one!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Gayle Zeller</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Children's Response Center</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Bellevue, WA</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=lfontes@rcn.com href="mailto:lfontes@rcn.com";>Lisa Fontes</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu
href="mailto:CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu";>Child Maltreatment
Researchers</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, December 13, 2002 4:08
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> demographic categories--race
& culture</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have been asked (informally) to help a large
U.S. organization tht works with child abuse internationally revise their
forms so the categories for ethnicity and race make sense. This is slightly
complicated by the fact that not all respondents are from the U.S,, but most
will be. Race seems relatively easy to me:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Check the following categories that best apply to
you:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>White/Caucasian</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Black/African/African-American</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Asian/Asian-American</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Native American/American Indian</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>(I am including the opportunity to check more
than one category so multiracial people can identify as such).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>But do people have some suggestions about
ethnicity? As I began to think this through I realized that the boundaries
between ethicity (e.g., African American) and National origin (e.g. Jamaican
Mom and U.S. Black Dad) become fuzzy. So I was left thinking that 3 categories
are really needed: race, ethnicity, and national origin.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If anyone has worked this all out on their forms
and wouldbe willing to send me their categories, I'd be grateful not to have
to reinvent this. I'm also interested in knowing what others are thinking
about around demographics.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>THanks!<BR>Lisa Fontes, Ph.D.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><A
href="mailto:lfontes@rcn.com";>lfontes@rcn.com</A></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Also in terms of race, I’d suggest
adding a “mixed” category.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>
</span>One of my good friends has an African mother and Caucasian father;
spending time with her left me wondering what it must be like to be forced to
choose which part of your heritage you identify with.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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</span>--</span></font><st1:PersonName><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Susan Etkind</span></font></st1:PersonName><font
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
owner-CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu
[mailto:owner-CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Lisa Fontes<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, December 13, 2002
7:09 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Child Maltreatment Researchers<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> demographic categories--race
& culture</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I have been asked (informally) to
help a large U.S. organization tht works with child abuse internationally
revise their forms so the categories for ethnicity and race make sense. This is
slightly complicated by the fact that not all respondents are from the U.S,,
but most will be. Race seems relatively easy to me:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Check the following categories that
best apply to you:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>White/Caucasian</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Black/African/African-American</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Asian/Asian-American</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Native American/American Indian</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>(I am including the opportunity to
check more than one category so multiracial people can identify as such).</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>But do people have some suggestions
about ethnicity? As I began to think this through I realized that the
boundaries between ethicity (e.g., African American) and National origin (e.g.
Jamaican Mom and U.S. Black Dad) become fuzzy. So I was left thinking that 3
categories are really needed: race, ethnicity, and national origin.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>If anyone has worked this all out on
their forms and wouldbe willing to send me their categories, I'd be grateful
not to have to reinvent this. I'm also interested in knowing what others are
thinking about around demographics.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>THanks!<br>
Lisa Fontes, Ph.D.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><a href="mailto:lfontes@rcn.com";>lfontes@rcn.com</a></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<DIV>You left out Latinos as a category and secondly why does the group "White/Caucasian" always come first in checklists even though alphabetically it doesn't come first?<BR> </DIV>
<DIV>Mario L. Marberry, MSW, LCSW</DIV>
<DIV>Child Welfare Fellow</DIV>
<DIV>School of Social Welfare</DIV>
<DIV>University of Kansas</DIV>
<DIV>email: <A href="mailto:marberry@ku.edu";>marberry@ku.edu</A></DIV>
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<DIV>If I'm the descendant of kings and queens, doesn't that make me royalty?</DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>From:</B></I> <A href="mailto:CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu";>CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu</A></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>Date:</B></I> Friday, December 13, 2002 09:07:38</DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>To:</B></I> <A href="mailto:CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu";>Child Maltreatment Researchers</A></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>Subject:</B></I> demographic categories--race & culture</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have been asked (informally) to help a large U.S. organization tht works with child abuse internationally revise their forms so the categories for ethnicity and race make sense. This is slightly complicated by the fact that not all respondents are from the U.S,, but most will be. Race seems relatively easy to me:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Check the following categories that best apply to you:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>White/Caucasian</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Black/African/African-American</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Asian/Asian-American</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Native American/American Indian</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>(I am including the opportunity to check more than one category so multiracial people can identify as such).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>But do people have some suggestions about ethnicity? As I began to think this through I realized that the boundaries between ethicity (e.g., African American) and National origin (e.g. Jamaican Mom and U.S. Black Dad) become fuzzy. So I was left thinking that 3 categories are really needed: race, ethnicity, and national origin.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If anyone has worked this all out on their forms and wouldbe willing to send me their categories, I'd be grateful not to have to reinvent this. I'm also interested in knowing what others are thinking about around demographics.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>THanks!<BR>Lisa Fontes, Ph.D.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><A href="mailto:lfontes@rcn.com";>lfontes@rcn.com</A></FONT></DIV>
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