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RE: Impact of Home Visiting

To: Child Maltreatment Researchers <CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Impact of Home Visiting
From: "Dixon, Donna M." <dixondm@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 14:26:52 -0500
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<DIV><SPAN class=560392319-21062002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Olds 
Model was used in Memphis, is that what you are referring to. Other than that I 
know that Nurses for newborns is beginning a program there (<A 
href="http://www.mc.vanderbilt.edu/reporter/?ID=1666";>http://www.mc.vanderbilt.edu/reporter/?ID=1666</A>). 
I have accumulated an extensive amount of literature on home visiting. I would 
be happy to share with you if you would like to call me and tell me what you 
already have.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P><FONT face="Palace Script MT" size=4>Donna Dixon, RN, MS</FONT> <BR><FONT 
face=Arial size=2>Center on Adolescent Sexuality, Pregnancy and Parenting</FONT> 
<BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>Department of Human Development &amp; Family 
Studies</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>University of Missouri</FONT> 
<BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>403 Gentry Hall</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial 
size=2>Columbia, MO 65211</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>(573) 
882-6687</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>(573) 884=4878</FONT> <BR><FONT 
face=Arial size=2>dixondm@missouri.edu</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2><A 
href="http://outreach.missouri.edu/hdfs/mvrm.htm"; 
target=_blank>http://outreach.missouri.edu/hdfs/mvrm.htm</A></FONT> 
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  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Shirleen Zimmeman 
  [mailto:shirleenz@qwest.net]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 21, 2002 11:57 
  AM<BR><B>To:</B> Child Maltreatment Researchers<BR><B>Subject:</B> Impact of 
  Home Visiting<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=050481816-21062002>Does anyone have a 
  copy or know where I could find a copy of the Nashville Study that shows the 
  impact&nbsp;that Home Visiting with at-risk clients has on reducing child 
  abuse?&nbsp; </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
  class=050481816-21062002></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
  class=050481816-21062002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
  class=050481816-21062002>Thanks,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=050481816-21062002>Shirleen 
  Zimmerman</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=050481816-21062002><A 
  href="mailto:shirleenz@qwest.net";>shirleenz@qwest.net</A></SPAN></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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From: "Scott Linder" <shlinder@hotmail.com>
To: Child Maltreatment Researchers <CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu>
Subject: RE: re unrelated males in household
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Thanks for the clarification.  Because the base rate is so low, this 
statistic would be very unlikely to strongly make such a prediction.

Scott Linder


>From: "John Rosen" <jrosen@kii.com>
>Reply-To: CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu
>To: Child Maltreatment Researchers   
><CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu>
>Subject: RE: re unrelated males in household
>Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 13:17:13 -0500
>
>cases in which one's formula "predicts" a child will be/is likely to be 
>killed, but no such event actually would occur (if the family is left to 
>it's own devices).  The problem here is that one might intervene with a 
>family whose child actually is not at risk.
>	john rosen
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Scott Linder [mailto:shlinder@hotmail.com]
>Sent: Fri, June 21, 2002 12:25 PM
>To: Child Maltreatment Researchers
>Subject: Re: re unrelated males in household
>
>
>I am not clear on what you mean by false positives.  Remember, the subject
>is in regards to children that have been violently killed.  You wrote:
>
> >>In practical terms, the biggest problem, as has been pointed out by
> >>several contributors, is the inevitable high rate of false positives 
>when
> >>the outcome variable has low incidence. <<
>
>Scott Linder
>
>
> >From: " Mike Procter" <mikeprocter@blueyonder.co.uk>
> >Reply-To: CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu
> >To: Child Maltreatment Researchers
> ><CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu>
> >Subject: Re: re unrelated males in household
> >Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 16:46:05 +0100
> >
> >Will Johnson's contribution is perhaps expressed in unfamiliar terms.
> >
> >1.  In large data sets the problem is usually that substantively weak
> >relationships will nevertheless often reach conventional levels of
> >statistical significance.  The "Michelin Guide" approach of reporting 
>more
> >and more stringent levels with more and more stars is beside the point:  
>it
> >is far more appropriate to report a PRE (Proportinte reduction in error)
> >measure such as an odds ratio or correlation coefficient.
> >
> >2.  It is of course true that "When the rate of occurrence of an event is
> >very low ... [few] variables ... willl ... have a statistically 
>significant
> >relationship ...  This is because of the low rate of of occurrrence..."
> >
> >3.  In established Mathematical usage a constant function is one that is
> >invariant under some defined conditions, whereas a variable function is 
>one
> >that takes different forms or vslues under different conditions.  For
> >instance, the well known relationship between unemployment and inflation
> >may
> >dffer between countries or between historical periods.  Child death has a
> >very low incidence, but nevertheless the incidence is a function of many
> >factors. If all factors work in the same way in all relevant 
>circumstances
> >we could say death is a constant function of these factors.  If  no 
>factors
> >have any effect then death is not a constant function but a constant.
> >
> >4.  In practical terms, the biggest problem, as has been pointed out by
> >several contributors, is the inevitable high rate of false positives when
> >the outcome variable has low incidence.  At the risk of appearing to be
> >falling into senescent reminiscence, I first came across this in the
> >writings of Sheldon and Eleanor Glueck, in the mid-60s, who totally 
>failed
> >to understand the point despite repeated attempts on the part of eminent
> >methodologists.  If I come across a reference to this I ahall post it --
> >unless someone beats me to it.
>
>
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