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<DIV><SPAN class=530203317-16102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>The
problem in Virginia concerned twins being asked questions about their parents
without explicit parental permission. It did in fact halt research for
some time and resulted in IRB standards being scrutinized and tightened.
Consent was not granted in loco parents by school officials, although the twins
had been given permission by their parents to take part in the study. the
problem arose, because permission was not sought by parents with respect to the
specific questions.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=530203317-16102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=530203317-16102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>My
advise with respect to any research involving children is to work closely with
the IRB every step of the way. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader DIR = LTR><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
owner-CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu
[mailto:owner-CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu]<B>On Behalf Of
</B>Thomas R. Chibucos<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 15, 2001 5:30
PM<BR><B>To:</B> Child Maltreatment Researchers<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:
institutional liability for research<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=710085417-15102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial
size=2>The study I referred to in Virginia was definitely not medical
research--it involved a parental complaint concerning the fact that children
were asked something about their parents, and that this was done without
parental consent. I am pretty certain that this impeded, at least for
a short time, ongoing research. There may have been consent granted in
loco parentis by school officials.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=710085417-15102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=710085417-15102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial
size=2>Let me stretch the discussion a bit further by suggesting that
"no harm, no foul, no damages," or the legal liability
issue, is but one part of a much more expansive set of
considerations that researchers must keep in mind. These go well
beyond the traditional cost-benefit calculus (e.g., harm & informed
consent vs. knowledge to be gained & societal payback for
investments in researchers) in determining whether and how research
might be done, and include virtually every aspect of research design
from problem selection and definition to data analysis and integration
of findings.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=710085417-15102001></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=710085417-15102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial
size=2>Also, although I have no empirical data to dispute the point
presently, I would disagree that "In the real world, ethical problems
involving subjects appear to be very rare."</FONT> <FONT
color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2> I will have data on this in 5-6
months.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=710085417-15102001></SPAN><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT
size=2><SPAN class=710085417-15102001><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial> </FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=710085417-15102001> </SPAN>-----Original
Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> owner-CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu
[mailto:owner-CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu]<B>On Behalf Of
</B>jcrowley@NMSU.Edu<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 15, 2001 11:15
AM<BR><B>To:</B> Child Maltreatment Researchers<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:
institutional liability for research<BR><BR></DIV></FONT></FONT>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" dir = ltr>On 12 Oct 2001, at
17:07, Thomas R. Chibucos wrote:<BR><BR><?color><?param 0000,0000,FF00><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>Go
to the NIH web page, and do a search on "ethics and
violations."<?/color><?fontfamily><?param Times New Roman><?bigger><BR><BR><?color><?param 0000,0000,FF00><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>I
know that Johns Hopkins had ALL government funded research stopped in
its tracks sometime within the past year. Don't know the resolution.
There are many examples, one in the state of Virginia although I can't
remember the university.<?/color><?fontfamily><?param Times New Roman><?bigger><BR><BR>The
Johns Hopkins incident had to do with MEDICAL research--a subject had a
disastrous reaction to an experimental drug. They got shut down for a
very short period, and are back up and running, probably with more
stringent informed consent protocols. <BR><BR>As far as I know, all of
the lawsuits on ethical violations involve medical studies. Those are
the ones with real consequences for respondents. The only other type of
research I can think of that might incur actual liability would be
studies which asked about illegal activities by the respondent, if the
information got out and caused harm to the respondent. For example, if a
politician confessed to having "lust in his heart" and it made
the papers, there might be damage to his political career, and he could
perhaps sue for the breach of confidentiality. However, that would have
to do with the failure of the researcher to control the release of
information, not the ethical issues in reseach design. In general,
liability only applies if you can show harm. No harm, no foul, and no
damages. <BR><BR>In the real world, ethical problems involving subjects
appear to be very rare. Case in point: the American Sociological
Association has had an ethics review board for many years. Virtually all
of the cases they have dealt with had to do with professional issues
such as who gets their name credited as an author on a paper, or
allegations of plagiarism. Design issues don't seem to arise.<BR><BR>The
type of research that gets the most hassles, in my limited experience,
is research that asks questions about emotionally/politically charged
subjects, such as child abuse, family violence, sexual experiences, etc.
<BR><BR>Joan Crowley<BR><BR><BR><?color><?param 0000,0000,FF00><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>Please
share your findings if you have time.<?/color><?fontfamily><?param Times New Roman><?bigger><BR><BR><?color><?param 0000,0000,FF00><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>Thanks.<?/color><?fontfamily><?param Times New Roman><?bigger><BR><BR><BR>00><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>href="http://www.nih.gov/"<U>http://www.nih.gov/</U><?/color><?fontfamily><?param Times New Roman><?bigger><BR><?paraindent><?param left><?fontfamily><?param Tahoma><?smaller>-----Original
Message----- <B>From:</B>
owner-CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu
[mailto:owner-CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu]<B>On Behalf Of
</B>lisa fontes <B>Sent:</B> Thursday, October 11, 2001 11:13 AM
<B>To:</B> Child Maltreatment Researchers <B>Subject:</B> Re:
institutional liability for research <BR><BR><?paraindent><?param left><?fontfamily><?param Times New Roman><?bigger>A
while back I posted a query requesting stories of or information about
Institutional liability in regard to reporting issues and research on
child maltreatment or violence against women. I rec'd a very small
number of replies--mostly horror stories about IRB's, but <B>NOT ONE
REPLY</B> <B>about an</B> <B>actual case</B> of an institution facing
liability problems for research that was conducted.<?/paraindent> <BR><?paraindent><?param left>Are our IRB's being overly-fearful then?
Is this question of institutional liability basically a "straw
man" that is hindering our work, but is not a realistic worry?<?/paraindent> <BR><?paraindent><?param left>Any other ideas about
where to access accounts of institutional liability? Help appreciated!
Lisa Fontes, Ph.D. lfontes@javanet.com<?/paraindent> <BR><PRE>Joan E. Crowley
New Mexico State University
Department of Criminal Justice
MSC 3487
Box 30001
Las Cruces, NM 88003-8001
jcrowley@nmsu.edu</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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From: "Lynne Kendal-Wilson" <lkwilson@mail1.vcu.edu>
To: Child Maltreatment Researchers <CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu>
Subject: RE: toddle/parent interaction measure
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<DIV><FONT color=#008080 face=Univers><SPAN class=060470019-23102001><FONT
size=3>T<SPAN class=010210619-23102001><FONT color=#008080 face=Univers
size=3>ry the </FONT></SPAN>NICHD, NNCC, NICHY, Qualkids, Child Care Exchange
websites .... input the issue into google and <SPAN
class=010210619-23102001><FONT color=#008080 face=Univers size=3>you should
</FONT></SPAN>get what they need<SPAN class=010210619-23102001><FONT
color=#008080 face=Univers size=3>.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#008080 face=Univers><SPAN class=060470019-23102001><FONT
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<DIV><SPAN class=010210619-23102001><FONT color=#008080 face=Univers
size=3>Lynne</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader DIR = LTR><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
owner-CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu
[mailto:owner-CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu]<B>On Behalf Of
</B>Nancy W. Gentes<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 23, 2001 2:35
PM<BR><B>To:</B> Child Maltreatment Researchers<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
toddle/parent interaction measure<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 face="Book Antiqua">I have been also searching
unsuccessfully for a similar tool to use in documenting outcome
measures/program success, and individual client progress for our Healthy
Families and supervised visitation center programs.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A href="mailto:childrenscenter@mindspring.com";
title=childrenscenter@mindspring.com>Holmes Joyce</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu";
title=CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu>Child Maltreatment
Researchers</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 23, 2001
12:00 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> toddle/parent interaction
measure</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS">Hi,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS">I'd like to second
Lori's request for info on measures of parent-child interaction
for children under five.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS">Thanks, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS">Joyce-</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Joyce Holmes, MSW</DIV>
<DIV>The Children's Center</DIV>
<DIV><A
href="mailto:childrenscenter@mindspring.com";>childrenscenter@mindspring.com</A></DIV>
<DIV>2500 Glendale Ave.</DIV>
<DIV>Durham NC 27704-4114</DIV>
<DIV>919/ 220-7161</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P><SPAN class=420471714-22102001>Am wondering if anyone can provide any
suggestions for a tool that measures parent-child interaction for
toddlers up to 5 years of age. Looking for a tool
(other than the Child Abuse Potential or NCAST) </SPAN>that is easy
to administer, not too expensive and can be implemented by both
professionals and paraprofessionals.</P>
<P> </P>
<P><SPAN class=420471714-22102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial
size=2>Any information or ideas greatly appreciated.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN class=420471714-22102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial
size=2>Lori Friedman</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN class=420471714-22102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial
size=2>Prevent Child Abuse America</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN class=420471714-22102001><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial
size=2><A
href="mailto:lfriedman@preventchildabuse.org";>lfriedman@preventchildabuse.org</A></FONT></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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I guess I'd like some more information. Why particularly when "mom is off to
work"? I'm curious as to why you are gathering this type of information and
what will be done with the statistics?
Thanks.