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Does anyone happen to have Jeff Edleson's email address? I'd like
to request a copy of the article and he isn't in the APA email
database.<br><br>
Thank you.<br><br>
Lyn R. Greenberg, Ph.D.<br>
12401 Wilshire Blvd, Suite 303<br>
Los Angeles, CA 90025<br><br>
(310) 399-3684<br><br>
(310) 399-7154 fax<br><br>
lrgreenberg@earthlink.net<br><br>
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At 10:25 AM 10/11/2001 -0500, carolyn hartley wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>If any parallels can be drawn
between criminal prosecution of child abuse and the prosecution of
intimate partner violence (I think there are), then some of your
suspicions are no doubt true. <br><br>
<x-tab> </x-tab>With
regards the charging of domestic violence assaults, Langen and Innes
found that one third of domestic violence cases that were classified as
misdemeanors, if committed by strangers, would have been classified as
felonies. Langen and Innes further found that many of the domestic
simple assaults, classified as misdemeanors, actually involved relatively
serious injuries. Injury to the victim in the misdemeanor cases
occurred almost as frequently as injury in the felony cases classified as
rape, robbery and aggravated assault, and “in terms of actual bodily
injury, as many as half of all incidents of domestic violence that police
would classify as misdemeanors are as serious as or more serious than 90%
of all the violent crimes that police would classify as felonies.”
<br><br>
Patrick A. Langan and Christopher A. Innes,<i> Preventing Domestic
Violence Against Women</i>. (Washington, D.C.: U.S. Department of
Justice, Bureau of Justice Statistics, 1986).<br><br>
I believe there is literature out there on the prosecution of child
sexual abuse - the challenges of relying on child testimony,
etc. There is also quite a bit that has been written about the
decision to charge in rape cases - that the "stand-up" nature
of the victim has a huge influence on the prosecutor's
decision.<br><br>
I think there are many reasons why parents are not charged with
"crimes against children" in the case of child
maltreatment. One reason may be that we have traditionally relied
on child protection systems and therefore family courts to address issues
of child abuse. In the same way that domestic violence for so many
years was considered a "family matter" - child abuse has been
thought of in a similar manner. <br><br>
There has been much progress made towards "criminalizing"
domestic violence - which has in turn required the criminal justice
system to respond to this abuse - there had been significant improvement
in this response but much work remains to be done. <br><br>
I am not sure if you are suggesting this is a direction we want to move
towards in the child protection field. I don't know that it would
be a productive move. I do however think we need more connection
between the criminal and family courts to better respond to child
maltreatment, particularly with regards to child sexual abuse and
domestic violence - in order to better hold sexual offenders and
batterers accountable for their abusive behavior.<br><br>
Take the issue of failure to protect due to domestic violence - if the
mother is being battered by her partner, the state can find for neglect
due to exposure to domestic violence. The mother in many of these
cases is the 'founded perpetrator' due to failure to protect.
Unless the batterer is found to have directly maltreated the child, he
may not be founded for the maltreatment. The state can recommend
batterer treatment, but has little leverage to get the batterer to comply
beyond the threat of losing custody of his children - he can't be sent to
jail for not following through because he has not been criminally
prosecuted. And if the batterer is not the biological father of the
children or legally married to the mother he may not be included in an
treatment plan for the family. See Jeff Edleson's article on the
invisibility of fathers in the child protection system.<br>
<x-tab> </x-tab><br>
<b>Edleson, J.L. (1998). Responsible mothers and invisible
men: Child protection in the case of adult domestic violence.
<u>Journal of Interpersonal Violence, 13,2,</u> 294-298.<br><br>
<br>
</b>Carolyn Hartley, Ph.D.<br>
Assistant Professor<br>
University of Iowa<br>
School of Social Work<br><br>
At 11:12 AM 10/10/2001 -0400, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>Hello:<br><br>
I am interested in research data relating to adults being charged with
crimes against children. I suspect that: 1) adults are often not charged
with crimes that they commit against children; 2) adults are charged with
less severe crimes than they may be if the act were committed against
another adult; 3) parents are rarely charged with crimes against their
children; 4) when charged with crimes against their children, parents are
more often found guilty of less serious offenses than what they are
originally charged with.<br><br>
I am interested to know of any research that addresses these
issues.<br><br>
Frank<br>
Program Manager<br>
Michigan Child Welfare Law Resource Center<br>
611 Church Street, Suite 4C<br>
Ann Arbor, Michigan 48104-3000<br>
P: (734) 998-9191<br>
F: (734) 998-9190</blockquote></blockquote><br>
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Subject: Re: child victims becoming perpetrators
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Excellent point. We also need to be careful re "forwards and backwards"
use of statistics. In any Dependency population, if one identifies an
abused child, there is a substantial likelihood of problems in the history
of at least one parent. However, the vast majority of those with
problematic (and even abusive) childhoods don't become perpetrators. In
any limited population, relationships may appear that we are tempted to
generalize beyond that population. But it's dangerous to do so, as
findings within one population may not hold up for the population at large
or for other "specialized" groups.
Lyn R. Greenberg, Ph.D.
Lyn R. Greenberg, Ph.D.
12401 Wilshire Blvd, Suite 303
Los Angeles, CA 90025
(310) 399-3684
(310) 399-7154 fax
lrgreenberg@earthlink.net
At 01:37 PM 10/16/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>I don't think that is true -- the research focuses on correlational
>relationships -- not cause/effect. See Bayes' Theorem of conditional
>probabilities -- it explains why the different populations of abuse victims
>and perpetrators can produce different findings.
>
>
>Good luck- Julie Rosof-Williams, RN, MSN
>
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>[mailto:owner-CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu]On Behalf Of
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>Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 1:20 PM
>To: Child Maltreatment Researchers
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>
>
>I am wondering if anyone can give me references or know where i can find
>them on the idea that children who have been sexually abuse are more likely
>to become perpretrators....Ihave heard that.. but I need refs to back it
>up... does anyone know? Thanks, victoria...