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<DIV><SPAN class=380185102-22082001><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>&gt;&gt;<SPAN 
class=EmailStyle18><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN 
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">What I 
am interested in is any research which might exist supporting the 2 attractive 
premises that guilty pleas are increased, and that victims are empowered by 
helping out in the investigation and confronting their 
abuser.&lt;&lt;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=380185102-22082001><FONT face=Tahoma 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=380185102-22082001><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>While you may be 
interested in supporting a point of view you already hold, better questions for 
a list dedicated to research would be:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=380185102-22082001><FONT face=Tahoma 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=380185102-22082001><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>1.&nbsp; What is 
the effect of using pretext conversations on the number of guilty pleas 
obtained?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=380185102-22082001><FONT face=Tahoma 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=380185102-22082001><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>2.&nbsp; How does 
participating in pretext conversations effect alleged victims who do 
so?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=380185102-22082001><FONT face=Tahoma 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<P><FONT 
size=2>***************************************************************************<BR>&nbsp;Ron 
Kokish at Delson-Kokish Associates, P.O. Box 476, Trinidad, CA 
95570<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Clinical and Forensic 
Evaluations, Consultation &amp; 
Training<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
(707)677-3181-voice&nbsp;&nbsp; 
(707)677-0187-fax<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
ron@delko.net-email&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
www.northcoast.com/~dka<BR>***************************************************************************<BR></FONT></P>
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  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
  owner-CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu 
  [mailto:owner-CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu]<B>On Behalf Of 
  </B>Lynda Summers<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, August 20, 2001 2:50 
  PM<BR><B>To:</B> Child Maltreatment Researchers<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: PRETEXT 
  conversations as an investigative tool<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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  style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">.moderated&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  Atheist# 683<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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From: "Ron Kokish" <ron@delko.net>
To: Child Maltreatment Researchers <CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu>
Subject: RE: help with contacts, please
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 08:45:02 -0700
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size=2>***************************************************************************<BR>&nbsp;Ron 
Kokish at Delson-Kokish Associates, P.O. Box 476, Trinidad, CA 
95570<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Clinical and Forensic 
Evaluations, Consultation &amp; 
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(707)677-3181-voice&nbsp;&nbsp; 
(707)677-0187-fax<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
ron@delko.net-email&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
www.northcoast.com/~dka<BR>***************************************************************************<BR></FONT></P>
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  [mailto:owner-CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu]<B>On Behalf Of 
  </B>Jason McCrory<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, September 07, 2001 4:04 
  PM<BR><B>To:</B> Child Maltreatment Researchers<BR><B>Subject:</B> help with 
  contacts, please<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><BR>Listserve Colleagues,<BR><BR>One of 
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From: "Ron Kokish" <ron@delko.net>
To: Child Maltreatment Researchers <CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu>
Subject: RE: cultural competence
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>>I know of no research to document the effectiveness of cultural competency
trainings in child welfare.<<

Can we not say the same for all child welfare training?  My impression is
that improved outcomes can sometimes be demonstrated after implementing new
systems on an agency wide basis.  (e.g. computerized case tracking,
actuarial decision making)  And naturally, people have to be trained to
implement systemic change. But it's likely the systemic change that produces
the improvement.  Is there research documenting improved case outcomes
following ANY specific training program that isn't tied to pre-planned
systemic change?


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 Ron Kokish at Delson-Kokish Associates, P.O. Box 476, Trinidad, CA 95570
        Clinical and Forensic Evaluations, Consultation & Training
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu
[mailto:owner-CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu]On Behalf Of
lisa fontes
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 8:04 PM
To: Child Maltreatment Researchers
Subject: Re: cultural competence