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<P><FONT size=2>My expertise regarding the antecedents of child abuse is
considerably less than most others on this list, but one question I would have
to ask before citing a % of abused children who become abusers themselves is
"What is the definition of child abuse being used?" It seems to
me that if, in a fit of highly atypical anger, my father hits me and breaks my
nose, that's child abuse, but if that's the only time that he goes too far, it
could be considered low trauma. If he abuses me in a similar manner
constantly over a period of years and taunts me when I cry, that's a completely
different level of trauma. In addition, there are clearly levels of child
abuse/trauma that are both less intense and more intense than the examples I
cited. Thus it seems to me that, like most behaviors, child maltreatment
can be measured on a continuum which in this case might range from no abuse to
unspeakable, chronic torture. I believe that one must take into account where on
that continuum the abuse lies in order to speculate on the probability of the
child becoming an abuser him/herself.<BR><BR>-Randy Webber <BR><BR>J.
Randall Webber, M.P.H. <FONT color=#0000ff><U><A
href="mailto:rwebber@chestnut.org";>rwebber@chestnut.org</A><BR></U></FONT>Director
of Training and Publications<BR>Chestnut Health Systems<BR>Lighthouse
Institute<BR>720 W. Chestnut Street<BR>Bloomington, IL 61701<BR>(309)
829-1058 Ext 3411<BR><<A href="http://www.chestnut.org"; target=_blank><FONT
color=#0000ff>http://www.chestnut.org</FONT></A>><BR><BR>Love bears all
things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures<BR>all things.<BR>1 Cor
13:7<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From:
owner-CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu<BR>[<A
href="mailto:owner-CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu";
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Behalf Of<BR>Leslie Welin<BR>Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 6:23 PM<BR>To:
Child Maltreatment Researchers<BR>Subject: statistics re: risk to
abuse<BR><BR><BR>I am looking for information on a question a student had
concerning the<BR>likelihood that someone who experienced abuse as a child would
abuse as<BR>an adult. The student stated she attended a workshop in which
the<BR>presenter said that someone who was abused as a child was 200%
more<BR>likely to abuse their own children. The information was cited to
Pettit,<BR>however, the student did not have the title of the study. The
student<BR>wondered how that could be when she was cited information from
Widom's<BR>study that the risk is around 30% to abuse.<BR><BR>Does anyone have
the title of the study by Pettit and is the statistic<BR>cited an accurate
reflection on the study?<BR><BR>Leslie Welin, M.Ed<BR>Faculty<BR>Health and
Human Services<BR>Malaspina University-College<BR>Duncan, British
Columbia<BR>Canada<BR></FONT></P></BODY></HTML>
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From: "J. Randall Webber" <rwebber@chestnut.org>
To: Child Maltreatment Researchers <CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu>
Subject: Glisson & Hemmelgarn reference
Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 14:07:24 -0500
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<P><FONT size=2>Aron-Could you provide the full citation for Glisson &
Hemmelgarn?<BR><BR>Thanks.<BR><BR>-Randy Webber<BR><BR>J. Randall Webber, M.P.H.
<FONT color=#0000ff><U><A
href="mailto:rwebber@chestnut.org";>rwebber@chestnut.org</A><BR></U></FONT>Director
of Training and Publications<BR>Chestnut Health Systems<BR>Lighthouse
Institute<BR>720 W. Chestnut Street<BR>Bloomington, IL 61701<BR>(309)
829-1058 Ext 3411<BR><<A href="http://www.chestnut.org/li/";
target=_blank><FONT
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short but that there is always time enough for courtesy.<BR><BR>-Ralph Waldo
Emerson<BR><BR><BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From:
owner-CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu<BR>[<A
href="mailto:owner-CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu";
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Behalf Of<BR>aron shlonsky<BR>Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2000 5:41 PM<BR>To: Child
Maltreatment Researchers<BR>Subject: Re:<BR><BR><BR>Although not directly
related, you may be interested in:<BR><BR>Glisson, C., & Hemmelgarn, A.
(1998). The effects of organizational climate<BR>and interorganizational
coordination on the quality and outcomes of<BR>children's service
systems.<BR><BR>Which finds that organizational climate is more important
than<BR>coordination. It's a stretch, but . . .<BR><BR>At 03:31 PM 5/4/00
-0400, you wrote:<BR><BR>>Do any of you know of any studies out there that
look at the impact of<BR>>staff turnover on the quality of services provided
to children and<BR>>families in either public or private agencies? any
help on this would be<BR>>most
appreciated.<BR>><BR>>Bill<BR>><BR>><BR>>William Meezan, DSW,
ACSW<BR>>Marion Elizabeth Blue Professor of Children and
Families<BR>>University of Michigan School of Social Work<BR>>3850
SSWB<BR>>1080 South University<BR>>Ann Arbor, MI
48109-1106<BR>>Phone: (734) 763-3428 Fax: (734)
763-3372<BR>>e-mail: meezan@umich.edu<BR><BR>Aron Shlonsky, MSW<BR>Research
Associate<BR>UC Berkeley<BR>Center for Social Services Research<BR>16 Haviland
Hall #7400<BR>Berkeley, CA 94720-7400<BR>TEL: (510) 642-6623<BR>FAX: (510)
642-1895<BR>E-MAIL: shlonsky@uclink4.berkeley.edu<BR></FONT></P></BODY></HTML>
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From: "J. Randall Webber" <rwebber@chestnut.org>
To: Child Maltreatment Researchers <CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu>
Subject: RE: Long Term Effects of Childrens Exposure to Parental Violence
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 09:30:24 -0500
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<P><FONT size=2>I would recommend:<BR><BR>Ganley, A. & Schechter, S. (1996).
<EM>Domestic Violence: A National Curriculum for Child Protective
Services. </EM>Family Violence Protective Fund.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT color=#000000 size=2>-Randy Webber</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2>J. Randall Webber, M.P.H. <FONT color=#ff00ff><U><FONT
color=#0000ff>rwebber@chestnut.org</FONT><BR></U></FONT>Director of Training and
Publications<BR>Chestnut Health Systems<BR>Lighthouse Institute<BR>720 W.
Chestnut Street<BR>Bloomington, IL 61701<BR>(309) 829-1058 Ext
3411<BR><<A href="http://www.chestnut.org/li/"; target=_blank><FONT
color=#0000ff>http://www.chestnut.org/li</FONT>/</A>><BR><BR>Life is not so
short but that there is always time enough for courtesy.<BR><BR>-Ralph Waldo
Emerson<BR><BR><BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From:
owner-CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu<BR>[<A
href="mailto:owner-CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu";
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Behalf Of<BR>John Devaney<BR>Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2000 2:24 PM<BR>To: Child
Maltreatment Researchers<BR>Subject: Long Term Effects of Childrens Exposure to
Parental Violence<BR><BR><BR>I would be grateful of any references to published
work that explores the<BR>long term consequences of being exposed to parental
violence for children. I<BR>am not looking for studies on the effects on
children of being assaulted.<BR><BR>Whilst I have found a number of research
articles looking at the impact of<BR>being exposed to domestic violence, I have
not been able to find anything<BR>that looks at exposure to violence by
parents/care givers on other adults.<BR><BR>The information is needed in the
context of a court case whereby the public<BR>agency that I work for is
currently applying for a Care Order in respect of<BR>an infant, and parental
violence and aggression is impeding professionals<BR>from engaging the parents
in work to look at their parenting skills and<BR>their relationship (there is a
history of domestic violence).<BR><BR>Any references would be much
appreciated<BR><BR>John
Devaney<BR><BR>john.devaney@bigfoot.com<BR></FONT></P></BODY></HTML>
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Subject: RE: borderline personality or PTSD?
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<P><FONT size=2>Bruce-I should read the book before I respond to your message,
but I can't help asking: Is it your contention that ALL child abuse is
"permanent", "brainwashes a child into a victim mindset for
life", and "is a root cause of domestic violence"? I would think
that this would depend on such factors as the severity of the abuse, the length
of time it went on, the nature of the abuse, etc. Or am I mistaken? Is
there no difference (in terms of the effects you mentioned) between a single
episode of mild abuse and years of severe, almost daily abuse? If there is
a difference, where does the dividing line fall in the continuum between the two
extremes I used? <BR><BR>-Randy Webber <BR><BR>J. Randall
Webber, M.P.H. <FONT
color=#0000ff><U>rwebber@chestnut.org</U></FONT><BR>Director of Training and
Publications<BR>Chestnut Health Systems<BR>Lighthouse Institute<BR>720 W.
Chestnut Street<BR>Bloomington, IL 61701<BR>(309) 829-1058 Ext
3411<BR><<A href="http://www.chestnut.org/li/"; target=_blank><FONT
color=#0000ff>http://www.chestnut.org/li</FONT>/</A>><BR><BR>Never esteem
anything as of advantage to thee that shall make thee break thy word or lose thy
self-respect.<BR><BR>Marcus Aurelius Antonius (121-180
A.D.)<BR><BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From:
owner-CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu<BR>[<A
href="mailto:owner-CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu";
target=_blank>mailto:owner-CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu</A>]On
Behalf Of<BR>Ewartcme@aol.com<BR>Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 11:02 AM<BR>To:
Child Maltreatment Researchers<BR>Subject: borderline personality or
PTSD?<BR><BR><BR>FREE<BR>Borderline personality disorder matches closely with
the symptoms of trauma<BR>induced by child abuse. The High Risk Action Council
maintains that child<BR>abuse is permanent, that it "brainwashes" a
child into a victim mindset for<BR>life, and that it is a root cause of domestic
violence. There is a high<BR>correlation between substance abuse, PTSD, and
childhood abuse. At your email<BR>request, we'd like to send, free, some sample
pages from our book: a small<BR>section that compares BPD with PTSD. For your
information, the book itself is<BR>entitled: THE LIES THAT BIND: THE PERMANENCE
OF CHILD ABUSE. This subject<BR>could cause some lively discussion, we
think.<BR><BR>Best to all,<BR>Bruce<BR>(Heyward Bruce Ewart, Ph.D.)<BR>High Risk
Action Council of South Carolina<BR></FONT></P></BODY></HTML>
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From: "J. Randall Webber" <rwebber@chestnut.org>
To: Child Maltreatment Researchers <CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu>
Subject: RE: Therapeutic Crisis Intervention (TCI)
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<P><FONT size=2>Are you thinking of the "Nonviolent Crisis
Intervention" model taught by the Crisis Institute in Brookfield, WS?
They describe four levels of behavior through which an individual passes during
a crisis, and recommend strategies for dealing with each level. More info
at their web site: crisisprevention.com<BR><BR>-Randy
Webber <BR><BR>J. Randall Webber, M.P.H. <FONT
color=#0000ff><U>rwebber@chestnut.org<BR></U></FONT>Director of Training and
Publications<BR>Chestnut Health Systems<BR>Lighthouse Institute<BR>720 W.
Chestnut Street<BR>Bloomington, IL 61701<BR>(309) 829-1058 Ext
3411<BR><<A href="http://www.chestnut.org/li/"; target=_blank><FONT
color=#0000ff>http://www.chestnut.org/li</FONT>/</A>><BR><BR>Never esteem
anything as of advantage to thee that shall make thee break thy word or lose thy
self-respect.<BR><BR>Marcus Aurelius Antonius (121-180
A.D.)<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From:
owner-CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu<BR>[<A
href="mailto:owner-CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu";
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Behalf Of<BR>John Polstra<BR>Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2000 10:44 AM<BR>To: Child
Maltreatment Researchers<BR>Subject: Therapeutic Crisis Intervention
(TCI)<BR><BR><BR>I'm doing some research regarding crisis intervention and
remembered a<BR>training in which I participated as a social worker working in a
residential<BR>treatment center. The training was referred to as
Therapeutic Crisis<BR>Intervention (TCI) and was developed, I believe, by
Cornell University. One<BR>of the elements of the training was a
discussion of the "Stress Model of<BR>Crisis" that outlined the phases
that a person or persons will go through<BR>for the duration of the
crisis. This model also suggested three possible<BR>outcomes to a crisis
that would occur in the recovery phase. I'm looking<BR>for any reference
that describes this model in detail and would also list<BR>the criteria that
would define the three outcomes that the model suggests.<BR>Can anyone out there
help me?<BR><BR>John Polstra, MSW, LCSW<BR>YES Supervisor<BR>Youth Emergency
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Subject: RE: cycle of violence, cycle of abuse
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<P><FONT size=2>Dr. Fraga-How do you define "being abused as a
child"? The real question I'm asking is whether you differentiate
between levels of severity. You have a much stronger research background
than I, and so it comes as no surprise to you that if the definition is broad
enough, every man in your batterers' group would answer "yes", but if
it is too limited, very few will indicate that they were abused. Thus, the
definition that is employed becomes a critical issue. When the recent
Zero-to-Three/Civitas/Brio Corp study indicated that 61% of parents condone
spanking as a regular form of punishment, that practice was fairly widely
condemned by child welfare professionals. Thus, could spanking be considered a
form of child abuse? If so, a lot of us have been abused at least
once.<BR><BR>I'm not questioning your observation, but rather requesting
elaboration for my own enlightenment.<BR><BR>Thanks!<BR><BR>-Randy
Webber <BR><BR>J. Randall
Webber, M.P.H. <FONT
color=#800080><U>rwebber@chestnut.org</U></FONT><BR>Director of Training and
Publications<BR>Chestnut Health Systems<BR>Lighthouse Institute<BR>720 W.
Chestnut Street<BR>Bloomington, IL 61701<BR>(309) 829-1058 Ext
3411<BR><<A href="http://www.chestnut.org/li/";
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word or lose thy self-respect.<BR><BR>
Marcus Aurelius Antonius (121-180 A.D.)<BR><BR><BR>-----Original
Message-----<BR>From: owner-CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu<BR>[<A
href="mailto:owner-CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu";
target=_blank>mailto:owner-CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu</A>]On
Behalf Of<BR>Michael A. Fraga, Psy.D., DABFE<BR>Sent: Wednesday, October 18,
2000 6:07 PM<BR>To: Child Maltreatment Researchers<BR>Subject: Re: cycle of
violence, cycle of abuse<BR><BR><BR>Anecdotal data from the over 120
participants we have in batterer's<BR>treatment groups on a weekly basis yields
a 75% plus correlation between<BR>being abused as a child and being convicted of
domestic violence as an<BR>adult. I should note that our program is clinically
based treatment, not<BR>'treatment' as defined by the legal stature which is
largely educational,<BR>and/or psychoeducational at best. We also afford groups
for the survivors of<BR>such family related trauma and work with both male and
female offenders.<BR><BR>One caveat is the research design pitfalls of history
and maturation which<BR>greatly temper any substabtive causal relationships
between childhood abuse<BR>and adult aggressive behaviors when the 'environment'
is factored in as in<BR>independent variable.<BR><BR>Michael A. Fraga,
Psy.D.<BR>Ananda Institute<BR>Family Trauma Research and
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<P><FONT size=2>The Illinois Department of Children and Family Services is in
the process of developing a certification process for child welfare workers. You
may want to speak with them regarding their experience thus far.<BR><BR>-Randy
Webber <BR><BR>J. Randall Webber, M.P.H. <FONT
color=#800080><U>rwebber@chestnut.org<BR></U></FONT>Director of Training and
Publications<BR>Chestnut Health Systems<BR>Lighthouse Institute<BR>720 W.
Chestnut Street<BR>Bloomington, IL 61701<BR>(309) 829-1058 Ext
3411<BR><<A href="http://www.chestnut.org/li/";
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Behalf Of<BR>Mark Horwitz<BR>Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 10:27 PM<BR>To:
Child Maltreatment Researchers<BR>Subject: CPS worker
certification<BR><BR><BR>I'm trying to identify states that certify CPS workers,
and to locate<BR>published and unpublished reports that describe and evaluate
certification<BR>efforts. Included would be states that formally certify
workers and also<BR>states that routinely test what workers learn from
competency-based<BR>training. Anecdotal responses, copies of unpublished
reports and citations<BR>would all be
appreciated.<BR><BR>Thanks.<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>Mark Horwitz, PhD,
JD<BR>P.O. Box 1114<BR>Northampton, MA
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<DIV><SPAN class=570124818-26102000><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial size=2>Since
1986, Illinois has funded addiction treatment programs for women with histories
of abusing and/or neglecting their children. The funding comes from the
Illinois Departments of Children and Family Services, and Human Services-Office
of Alcoholism and Substance Abuse. The name of this joint effort is
Project SAFE. There are 20 such programs in Illinois, all of which provide
parenting classes as one component of the program. I would recommend
calling Florence Wright, Clinical Director of the Interventions/Women's
Treatment Program in Chicago (312/633-4977). If she is not the best person
to provide this information, she will refer you to someone else.
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=570124818-26102000><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=570124818-26102000><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial size=2>Since
we have been involved since the beginning in Project SAFE training and
evaluation, we have a section of our web site that describes many of its
services and issues. Go to our home page (see below) and scroll down to
the PS section.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=570124818-26102000><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=570124818-26102000><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial size=2>-Randy
Webber </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<P><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial size=2>J. Randall Webber, M.P.H.</FONT><U>
<FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>rwebber@chestnut.org<BR></FONT></U><FONT
color=#000000 face=Arial size=2>Director of Training and
Publications<BR>Chestnut Health Systems<BR>Lighthouse Institute<BR>720 W.
Chestnut Street<BR>Bloomington, IL 61701<BR>(309) 829-1058 Ext
3411<BR></FONT><U><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><<A
href="http://www.chestnut.org/li/"; target=_blank><FONT
color=#0000ff>http://www.chestnut.org/li/</A>></FONT></FONT><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT face=Arial> </FONT></FONT></U></P>
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<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Never esteem anything as of advantage to thee
that shall make thee break thy word or lose thy self-respect. </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Marcus Aurelius Antonius (121-180 A.D.)</FONT>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
owner-CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu
[mailto:owner-CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu]<B>On Behalf Of</B>
Portia Davis<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, October 26, 2000 12:56
PM<BR><B>To:</B> Child Maltreatment Researchers<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
factors associated with reporting/investigating maltreatment in
NIS-3<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2>I have a request from an
Australian seeking information about parenting programs for drug users
in the prison system and in the wider community in the US and Canada.
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2>If anyone has any knowledge, please
share.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>Portia A. Davis,<BR>Executive Director<BR>The Ross County Network For
Children<BR><A
href="http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Village/3648/";>http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Village/3648/</A></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A href="mailto:nico.trocme@utoronto.ca";
title=nico.trocme@utoronto.ca>Nico Trocme</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu";
title=CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu>Child Maltreatment
Researchers</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, October 25, 2000
11:47 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> factors associated with
reporting/investigating maltreatment in NIS-3</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Is anyone aware of studies examining the
factors associated with professionally identified NIS-3 cases that are
not reported/investigated by CPS?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Nico</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Nico Trocmé<BR>Bell Canada Child
Welfare Research Unit<BR>Centre for Applied Social Research<BR>Faculty
of Social Work<BR>University of Toronto<BR><BR>246 Bloor St
West<BR>Toronto, M5S 1A1<BR>Ontario, Canada<BR><BR>tel:
416-978-5718<BR>fax: 416-978-7072<BR><A
href="mailto:nico.trocme@utoronto.ca";>nico.trocme@utoronto.ca</A><BR><A
href="http://cwr.utoronto.ca/";>http://cwr.utoronto.ca/</A><BR></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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From: "J. Randall Webber" <rwebber@chestnut.org>
To: Child Maltreatment Researchers <CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu>
Subject: RE: Defining the co-occurrence of domestic violence and childmaltreatment
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 09:17:01 -0600
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Dr. Newell-If exposure to domestic violence is a form of child abuse, what
do you think would be the proper response on the part of CPS? Let's say
that CPS became involved because as a mandated reporter, I find out about
the situation and call (in Illinois) the DCFS hotline?
-Randy Webber
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From: owner-CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu
[mailto:owner-CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu]On Behalf Of Rob
Newell
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2000 2:09 AM
To: Child Maltreatment Researchers
Subject: Re: Defining the co-occurrence of domestic violence and
childmaltreatment
FYI,
Many states now (legally) consider domestic violence committed in the
presence of a child a form of child abuse. As a child/adolescent clinical
psychologist, I certainly do.
Robert M. Newell, Ph.D.
Seattle, Washington
From: brianmorgan@btinternet.com
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To: Child Maltreatment Researchers
<CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: Defining the co-occurrence of domestic violence and
childmaltreatment
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 22:38:59 00100
My two cents might be worth even less, as I am not a researcher
in this field, but I'm wondering what this is _for_.
Are you intending to provide predictors for child abuse based on
domestic violence, and if so, do you not need to study the
population of households with domestic violence to see how many
are associated with child abuse, rather than the other way
around?
Even if you found that all child abuse cases are associated with
domestic violence, this does not mean that all domestic violence
leads to child abuse. You could end up wrongly removing children
from any family where there was adult violence - much though the
latter is to be deplored - when the appropriate intevention might
be to work on the violence.
And how about a prospective study, which in biomedical circles
usually carries more weight - or am I wrong?
Brian Morgan
>I'll give you my two cents, for what it is worth.
>
>carolyn hartley wrote:
>
>> Dear List Members,
>>
>> I am working on a study of the co-occurrence of domestic violence and
>> child maltreatment. I have a cross-sectional sample of all confirmed
>> child abuse cases involving a parental perpetrator for a city in Iowa
>> (population 130,000) for a 20-month period. I am comparing the
>> characteristics of families defined as ‘child maltreatment only’ wi>th
>> ‘co-occurrence’ families (both child maltreatment and domestic
>> violence present).
>>
>> I have three sources of data to verify the presence of domestic
>> violence: 1) the assessment narratives completed by child protection
>> workers investigating the child abuse allegation; 2) the service
>> authorization forms completed by child protection service workers on
>> families referred for services after the investigation; and 3) a data
>> base created by the city police department on all domestic violence
>> arrests occurring in the city.
>>
>> My question has to do with defining 'co-occurrence' and 'child
>> maltreatment only.'
>>
>> Regarding the co-occurrence group, should I restrict co-occurrence to
>> only male batterer/female victim?
>
>My opinion would be yes for both research and political reasons. The
>political reasons are fairly obvious, although I would add that men
>battering their wives is a different phenomenon, socio-culturally, than
>women battering their husbands. The roots of the problem are different,
>the cultural support and history of woman abuse is much different. Of
>course there are social psychologists who would disagree with me and
>argue that violence is violence.
>
>For purposes of research I would question whether the N of the woman to
>husband violence would be large enough to do any analysis. Furthermore,
>do you want to invest your resources into that small N. I guess these
>are rather pragmatic reasons.
>
>> I have a small percentage of cases involving a female batterer. The
>> majority of studies on co-occurrence involve a female victim/male
>> batterer.
>>
>> Also regarding this group, should the domestic violence precede the
>> child maltreatment to be considered a ‘co-occurrence’? Again, the
>> majority of studies of families with known child abuse (from Edleson’>s
>> excellent review) started with a report of child abuse and looked
>> retrospectively at reports of domestic violence.
>> All the child protection data on domestic violence I have involves
>> domestic violence preceding child maltreatment. However, I have
>> police report data on domestic violence occurring after the child
>> maltreatment. Can I still consider this co-occurrence? What would
>> be an appropriate time frame for assuming co-occurrence (a police
>> incident within two months, six months, a year)?
>>
>
>This is an interesting question. If you use the term "co-occurrence"
>then temporal order isn't important. I think it would be useful to have
>a window, as you suggest, for the occurrence of either form of abuse.
>It might be interesting to study the subgroups and see how the order of
>the abuse correlates with any differences in the sub-groups. One
>justification for ignoring temporal order is that there might be
>differences in the "opportunity" to be abused by a partner depending on
>whether a woman is in a relationship or not. How long you open the
>window is an arbitrary decision, I would personally choose a one year
>period.
>
>
>>
>> Regarding the child maltreatment only group, how “pure” should this
>> group be? Should I restrict the sample to no known history of
>> domestic violence by a past or current partner? I have some
>> assessment narratives and police data that indicate domestic violence
>> by a past partner, but no evidence of battering by a current partner.
>>
>
>Another difficult decision. I would try to make the groups as "pure" as
>possible in order to have the highest confidence that any differences I
>found were in fact attributable to their group membership (child
>maltreatment only vs. co-occurrence group).
>
>
>>
>> I would appreciate any thoughts or suggestions of literature that
>> might assist me in making these decisions.
>
>This is an area of research I'm very interested in and would appreciate
>hearing what you decide as well as any papers which you write out of the
>data.
>
>Good luck.
>
>
>
>> ************************************
>
>Randy H. Magen, Ph.D.
>Associate Professor
>School of Social Work
>University of Alaska Anchorage
>3211 Providence Drive
>Anchorage, Alaska 99508
>phone: (907) 786-6901
>email: afrhm1@uaa.alaska.edu
>Web site: http://cwolf.uaa.alaska.edu/~afrhm1/index.html
>
>
>
>
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