Re: Profile of suspected MSBP perpetrators

[Brian Morgan <brianmorgan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Does any member of the list have any information about a 'Delphi' research
project into Munchausen syndrome by Proxy that was being undertaken in 1998  by
an Australian university post-graduate, whose name if I recall correctly, was
Shona Craig.

I was in contact with her and her supervisor, but my computer crashed last
year, corrupting my email files.

The project was due to wind up around mid 98 with a master's thesis being
produced.

I would be grateful for any leads which might help me contact Ms Craig again.

Brian Morgan





C M Currie wrote:

> Sorry, my previous post's web site address had a break in it.  Here it is
> again:
> http://www.medscape.com/Medscape/psychiatry/journal/1997/v02.n12/mh4597.CA-p
> roxy/mh4597.CA-proxy.html
>
> Also, about another dozen more papers are available through Medline (Oddone
> Virinios' most recent post has an address for the NLM) going back to 1996.
> Therefore, published info is sparce - and Munchausen was not included in the
> recent psychiatric epidemiology catchment area studies in the US (to my
> knowledge).  The best studies would be hospital case reviews at larger
> centers - see Feldman & Hickman, J. Pediatr Surg, 33(4):623-7, 1998 which
> was limited to central venous catheter placements, finding that 1.1% were
> known MSBP victims and were often atypical CVC cases.  Marital estrangment
> was noted in several of the studies - it may be a motive for both
> perpetration and accusation.
> Cathie M. Currie, Ph.D.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C M Currie <CMCurrie@worldnet.att.net>
> To: Child Maltreatment Researchers
> <CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu>
> Date: Friday, June 04, 1999 8:04 AM
> Subject: Re: R: R: Profile of suspected MSBP perpetrators -Reply
>
> The following web site has a series of abstracts on MSBP.  I didn't find any
> epidemiology studies, but some of the reviews may include attempts at
> estimating incidence.
> http://www.medscape.com/Medscape/psychiatry/journal/1997/v02.n12/mh4597.CA-p
> roxy/mh4597.CA-proxy.html
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Morgan <brianmorgan@btinternet.com>
> To: Child Maltreatment Researchers
> <CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu>
> Date: Thursday, June 03, 1999 3:05 PM
> Subject: Re: R: R: Profile of suspected MSBP perpetrators -Reply
>
> Apologies for mistyping, but further to the previous message, if 'idiopathic
> thrombocytopenic purpura' is shown to have a 'causal' relationship with MMR
> vaccination does this nullify the 'idiopathic' bit?
>
> 'Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy' was described to me once as an example of a
> 'naming fallacy' by a psychologist, but as is evidenced by some of the
> exchanges here, psychologists' opinions are not always respected by medical
> doctors.
>
> Brian Morgan
>
> Oddone Virginio wrote:
>
> > About Shari Ben Natan's message and Brian Morgan's last one.
> >
> > Glad to see that elsewhere doctors do the same mistakes (and show the same
> > ambiguities) toward MSBP as in Italy. I've seen it even in very serious
> > cases of child maltreatment (e.g. Shaken Baby Syndrome).
> >
> > Please take note: "IDIOPATHIC", not "ideopathic"; from the greek "idios",
> > peculiar. See Webster' (I have New Collegiate Edition, 1984): "1. arising
> > spontaneously or from an obscure or unknown cause: PRIMARY - 2. peculiar
> to
> > the individual".
> >
> > "Idiopathic" diagnoses have always been an elegant, cryptic declaration of
> > ignorance by doctos, framed in greek words so to mask it from the
> > unsuspecting patient, who walks out with the certitude of having just
> > received a difficult diagnosis, worth its price. In some cases they arise
> > from bona fide limitations of science, in many other cases they are simply
> > the consequence of carelessness, of breach of what I call the "duty of
> > curiosity" on the part of doctors.
> >
> > Finally: the fact that a cluster of signs can be linked to an "idiopathic"
> > disease does not absolve doctors from a duty to seek for other causes.
> >
> > Virginio.
> >
> > Virginio Oddone MD
> > V. Avogadro 6
> > 10121 - Torino (Italy)
> > e-mail: oddovir@ipsnet.it
> >
> > ----------
> > > Da: Shari Ben Natan <sharben@netvision.net.il>
> > > A: Child Maltreatment Researchers
> > <CHILD-MALTREATMENT-RESEARCH-L@cornell.edu>
> > > Oggetto: Re: R: Profile of suspected MSBP perpetrators -Reply
> > > Data: mercoled“ 2 giugno 1999 6.42
> > >
> > > At 19:02 01/06/99 +0000, you wrote:
> > > >Responding to Oddone Virginio with an enquiry - what is the incidence
> of
> > MSBP
> > > >in Italy - is it recognized as a syndrome there?
> > > >
> > > >Brian Morgan
> > > >
> > > >Oddone Virginio wrote:
> > >
> > > In this same line...I would like to ask about ITP.  I'm am not a Doctor,
> > > rather a therapist that works with severely abused children.  About two
> > > years ago we received for evaluation (in-patient) a little girl (4 1/2
> > > yrs)that had been diagnosed for ITP, hospitalized many times and given
> > many
> > > steriods.  The day she was removed from her home (schizophrenic mother -
> > no
> > > father in the home, but later she told of sexual abuse)was the last day
> > she
> > > had any signs of this condition.
> > >
> > > I tried to understand this phenomenon but the only answers I got were
> > > "that's the way it works sometimes."  Now I see it on this list.  Can
> > > anyone enlighten me?
> > > Shari
> > >